Şeker Bayramı Greetings to all Turkish Class members.

Funny. I was sure about this "ä" but perhaps I was wrong. I´ll keep listening. Thanks for answering, si++.

You are being so comprehensive, si++.

These examples, by the way, show that kendi is flexible enough to act as a hanger of grammatical elements without a special meaning of its own. When you don´t know where to put a troublesome suffix from your hands bring kendi to the scene.

So it´s good that I corrected him.

"Well done. This is perfect and there is no need for corrections."

"Thank you. Your Turkish is perfect and there was only one small mistake. There is no need for corrections."

(Learner´s translation attempt)

Thank you, tunci. si++, thank you.

I have noticed this disappearance of inlayed postpositions in texts many times but I guess I just needed someone to say it loud. Of course some occurances are clearer than others and there is just one probable interpretation that is likely to actualize in the listener´s mind. But then again in other cases (like this satın aldığı sentence) more alternatives tend to pop up, but this is of course a problem only in theoretical examples.

The participle tenses are still somewhat disorganized in my mind but there seems to be detailed info about this in the second link that you gave, si++. I´ll take it as a homework.

Do you mean there is no problem with Babamın arabayı satın aldığı adamı gördük even though nothing implies that it was from the man, not for him or with him for instance? It would be correctly understood without ambiguity  -  in its own context of course?

I can see that the -an-participle structures which you suggested express the same meaning and they look more clear to me but introduce another point of view.

          The men to whom the President spoke were patriots.

          We saw the man who my father bought the car from.

When the relative pronoun in an English sentence is the object of a preposition and they together act as an adverbial I can´t think of another way to say it in Turkish but with the help of personal participles. The result, though, in my eyes looks ambiguous:

          Cumhurbaşkanın konuştuğu adamlar çok vatanperverdirler. (talked ´to them´ or ´with them´ or ´about them´?)

And this is even worse:

          Babamın arabayı satın aldığı adamı gördük. (bought ´from the man´ or ´with the man´ or ´for the man´?)

Just like there is something missing but I can´t understand what it is.

Hello Mavili! See Elisa´s lesson about Adverbial Clauses from this site or Manisa´s Adverbial Clauses of Time. They have been helpful for me.