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Thread: Elections.....

3291.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:45 am

Quoting MrX67:

to ling in Holland or to be EU citizen not enough for to be enough democratical,if you still have some prejudices about wearing still or belief prefernce of humans without don't know whats in their brains and hearts,how you can say u r enough democratical and let me know if to livinf Holland any privilage for to be more democratical??????



I dont have any prejudice at all about wearing a headscarf of religious preferances. But I do think that politics and religion should be separated in any case.

And you did not read my posts at all. I did not say I am against wearing headscarves. I said it is surprising that a country that adores Atatürk, votes for a party with ideas against him. Thats all. No need for you to judge my democratical values, hatta to tell me I have prejudice. If you go on talking in this tone, it is very ovious that the prejudicial one is YOU.



Thread: Nationalists target British holiday homes in Turkey

3292.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:41 am

Quoting MrX67:

not for willings of EU!!!!



Did I say that?


Im not such a big fan of EU, but our small united nations are better than a highly divided Europe in the world of the powres of the east and the US.

I too, wish for the improvement of Turkey.



Thread: Elections.....

3293.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:35 am

Quoting MrX67:

i advice you to interrogate urself about whats the basic human rights for the criticize election results..



I think living in Holland I have quite a good understanding of basic human rights, thank you.
Secondly, I was not at all criticizing election results, as I stated I have no political sense at all. However, it is surprising for a country that praises the leader of anti-islam-governing, to again, vote for a religious party. They may say they have no agenda of 'islamizing' Turkey, but how can you NOT want to mix your FAITH, the basics upon which you build your ideas for the world, with your job/daily life, thus politics in this case? This seems a mystery to me.

I take it your an AKP voter

I just wonder why Turkey, a country that needs to go forward, would vote for a conservative party. And Im genuinely interested and not judging or criticizing at all (And Im very sorry I felt the need to say this just to avoid misconfusion about my intentions).

Anyway as is said before, its no longer voting the best, but voting for the least worst.



Thread: Nationalists target British holiday homes in Turkey

3294.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:31 am

Quoting MrX67:

so everythings not only material benefits cat!!!..



I think Catwoman was merely talking about international contacts anyway, not about material benefits. As material benefits would only help the happy few, international contacts and eventually enterance of the EU could do much more good.



Thread: Elections.....

3295.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 23 Jul 2007 Mon 01:08 am

I have always thought AKP to be a rather dangerous party for Turkey. As I have no political sense whatsoever, I wonder where I picked up this idea though.

Maybe it is just because both Erdogan and Gül have never been able to impress me with their speeches. And I am highly surprised that Güls wife has her head covered. In a country where 20 million people live below the poverty-standarts, there are more important things than a headscarf to discuss about. But for a country that praises Atatürk so high, the founder of secularism in Turkey, it surprises me that they vote for a party in which the leaders are Islamic and have head-covered wives that therefore cant even be invited everywhere.



Thread: Nationalists target British holiday homes in Turkey

3296.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 22 Jul 2007 Sun 08:55 pm

Quoting Gizli Yuz:


I asked you your thoughts on the existence of racism among the dutch people. And then you made a comment on the dutch people saying "I don't understand the fear of my country men".

I helped you to make comment on the dutch people.

What's wrong?



I'll tell you what's wrong

I wasnt asked in any kind of survey about racism, nor have I ever. Usually these polls are asked among people in problem areas, to state where the problem is.

When thinking of Holland in regard to its foreign inhabitants/racism, there is a clear division between the West of Holland, where many foreigners live, and the other parts of the country.

The area where I live, does have foreigners too, but not in such big amounts as a city like Rotterdam. To hear racism or anger against muslims in my region, is much smaller, than the sounds of unsatisfaction in the West of Holland.

I think in general Dutch people are pretty tolerant (or at least politically correct enough not to speak out loud), and I am the very LAST person to be a racist or judge anyone, but I can imagine you start complaining if your foreign neighbour doesnt even speak enough Dutch to greet you when picking up your post, when you hear that an Imam in your neighbourhood has wished for illnesses upon non-believers or when your neighbours just throw the left-overs of their pilav over their balcony (YES this happens.)

It is a delicate subject and everyone blames everyone. There is quite a lot of trouble about the integration of foreigners in our country. The division in the country is very obvious from the politics. People with strict thoughts on immigration and integration such as Pim Fortuyn and Rita Verdonk, were welcomed warmly under most people in the West. But people in the east parts, where mostly unpleased with Verdonks words.

I can't say that there are no racists in Holland, because there are in every place of the world. And my thought of Dutch people has always been that they are of the complaining kind and that the grass is not the greenest on their side.. But I can say that large communities of foreigners, did nothing to improve their image.



Thread: Translation

3297.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jul 2007 Sat 04:09 pm

Quoting pasta:

Seninle olmayi isterdim-i want nothing but to be with you??
and what is the meaning of e.g seninKI? How and where is this KI used...



I would love to be with you.


Seninki = yours

I think it is mostly used when something else is defined and mentioned before. It is used to shorten a sentence up:


Benim saçım uzun. Senin saçın kısa.
My hair is long. Your hair is short.

Benim saçım uzun. Seninki kısa.
My hair is long. Yours is short.


--
Onun gözleri mavi. Senin gözlerin yeşil.
His eyes are blue. Your eyes are green.

Onun gözleri mavi. Seninkiler yeşil.
His eyes are blue. Yours are green.



Thread: Special Holiday?

3298.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jul 2007 Sat 04:06 pm

Quoting Trudy:


So tomorrow Kadir has to go to Ankara or else he cannot vote? Oofff... what if someone from - let's say - Van lives in Istanbul now, it is almost impossible to travel that in a short time, you need to be back for work in time as well I guess?



Yes. Moreover, you HAVE to vote, you can vote 'empty', but you have to show up. I believe you get a bill if you dont show up and if they manage to find you.

But its up to oneself, Kadir wouldnt have to bother to go to Ankara if he had changed the adress to Izmir. He doesnt mind to go there, hatta he loves it (so eveyr excuse is welcome ) but as you say, for people who have a job, it is smarter to change your voting-area.



Thread: Spam mail or real?

3299.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jul 2007 Sat 02:52 pm

Quoting Loveprague:

I am very confused



Ohh please. The last thing one should do is to be confused by a PM, spam or normal, from someone we dont even KNOW



Thread: What are you listening now?

3300.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 21 Jul 2007 Sat 02:48 pm

Hüseyin Beydilli - Allah için



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