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Thread: Short conversation

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 05:13 pm

A conversation that I can imagine being quiet common (especially in our house!) might be:

Kahve istiyor musun?
Evet lÃ¼tfen. Siyah kahve istiyorum.

Three questions:
1. Is it correct?
2. In a friendly situation would you say "do you want" or is there a more informal "would you like"?
3. In black coffee (without milk) "siyah kahve"?

Thread: another word game

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 04:45 pm

Quoting sophie:

bağırmak - to yell

atlamak - to jump

Thread: how to construct sentences with...

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 04:42 pm

Quoting lululy:

woo~ it's really difficult!! give me some times to try~
and how about using "can" to make up sentences??
for example, i can go now...???

According to WinMekMak, "I can go" is the potential present tense.

This which is formed with the potential suffix -ebil, the present continuous suffix -iyor and the first person possessive suffix -im

So:
gitmek - to go
git-ebil-iyor-im -> ben gidebiliyorum - I can go (now)

Thread: I. Mastar Hali - The Infinitive

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 04:22 pm

Yarın bugÃ¼nden daha erken uyanmak istiyorum Ã§Ã¼nkÃ¼ bugÃ¼n Ã§ok geÃ§ kaldim.

Thread: Use of sağol

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 02:37 am

Quoting Teanga:

Quoting bod:

Is there a singular definitive source for what is true TÃ¼rkÃ§e??? I mean like the Oxford English Dictionary is the definitive source of English (at least UK English!)

Not to mean that OED language is universal or even common in daily life - but at least it is an aknowledged common ground for everyone.

Same in Turkish, dictionaries. All the dictionaries I have state it as being "Sağ ol". Besides, even the "TÃ¼rk Dil Kurumu" tend to get things wrong, in some peoples' opinions.

The only two TÃ¼rkÃ§e dictionaries I use state "sağol" and not "sağ ol" - but there again they are both online!!!
http://www.turkishdictionary.net/
http://www.seslisozluk.com/

Having said that - I have 8 English dictionaries, but only one would I consider definitive!

Thread: Where to put the adjective

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 02:33 am

Quoting Teanga:

However, "to swim is very nice" isn't very natural. It's more natural to say "Swimming is really good". "Swimming" being a verb acting as a noun and "to swim" being the infinitive form of a verb.

"swimming" is not really acting as a noun.......
In English it is a participle - as I understand things* TÃ¼rkÃ§e does not have any participles so there is no direct comparison.

*It is 5 weeks since I first started learning TÃ¼rkÃ§e so I may very well be wrong in my understanding!!!

Thread: Use of sağol

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 02:14 am

Thread: Where to put the adjective

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 02:07 am

Quoting Teanga:

The first example doesn't make any sense. Bu yaramaz kÃ¶pek means something along the lines of "This naughty is dog". I think you mean to to say "Bu yaramaz bir kÃ¶pek", which means "This is a naughty dog".

Yes - I actually added the "bir" to the first example and then thought it didn't make sense to also add it to the second sentence. I should have thought it through more

Quoting Teanga:

Bu oğlan uzun - This boy is tall
Bu uzun bir oğlan - This is a tall boy

Do you see any differences between these two???

Quoting Teanga:

YÃ¼zmek Ã§ok gÃ¼zel - This means "Swimming is very good/nice".

Yes - that is more how I would have translated it.
But I got confused as erdinc (a native Turk I believe) said "YÃ¼zmek Ã§ok gÃ¼zel. It's very nice to swim."
The translation I would have adopted would be "to swim is very nice" so as to keep the verbal infinitive tense.

Thread: Use of sağol

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 01:59 am

Quoting Teanga:

Sağ ol is the gramatically correct form. Ol is olmak in the imperative mood and sağ is the noun that it affects. Though it is also commonly spelt as one word sağol. It is the same as hoşÃ§a kal, which is meant to be spelt as I have spelt it, but a lot of people also spell it "hoşÃ§akal".

Why is this???

Is it a dilution of the language, a lazy street form or an evolution of the language as a whole?

Thread: Translation

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bod
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05 Jan 2006 Thu 01:47 am

Quoting Abbie:

hi baby i have a job at the end of jan to be a holiday rep in turkey so if i get it i can be close to you all season. miss you

erm.......
With all due respect, that doesn't make sense in English. Therefore any translation to TÃ¼rkÃ§e must be difficult, if not impossible!

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