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Thread: e TO T very important please

5701.       tunci
7149 posts
 30 Jul 2011 Sat 12:55 pm

 

Quoting ayse-eski

If the person who killed 76 people in Norway was a Muslim, the Press would have declared him as terrorist.

Şayet Norveç´te 76 kişiyi öldüren şahıs bir  Müslüman olsaydı basın onu terörist olarak ilan ederdi.

 For now though, he is just an ´Assailant ´, ´Attacker´ (Reuters), ´Gunman´ (BBC, CNN ). Looks like ´Terrorist ´ is a name reserved for Muslims?

Ama O şimdilik sadece ´Saldırgan´ [ Reuters ], Silahlı şahıs [ BBC,CNN]. Öyle görünüyor ki ´ Terörist´ sadece Müslümanlara tahsis edilmiş bir isim.

The US Dept of State calls it an ´Act of Violence´, Not an ´Act of Terrorism´. Share this status and let the world know, HYPOCRISY is leading us astray.

Amerikan Dışişleri Bakanlığı bu olayı ´ Terör Fiili ´ değil de bir ´ Şiddet Fiili ´ olarak nitelendiriyor. İKİYÜZLÜLÜK bizi yanlış yola doğru sevkediyor.Bu durumu  paylaşıp dünyayı haberdar edelim.

 

 

 

 

 



Thread: eng - turk

5702.       tunci
7149 posts
 28 Jul 2011 Thu 01:43 am

 

Quoting benimsin

I think I have to wait until 20th of september. Will you be there then?

 

 

Sanırım Eylül´ün 20´sine kadar beklemek zorundayım. O tarihte orada olacak mısın ?



Thread: Turk-Eng

5703.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Jul 2011 Wed 11:12 pm

 

Quoting tassia

could it also mean....be who you are?

 

 yes, thats possible,

ya olduğun gibi görün yada göründüğün gibi ol

  - be who you are

  - act as you are

  - behave as you are

  Moral of the story is , dont wear mask, dont act like somebody else, be yourself. Be honest person.

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Thread: english-turkish

5704.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Jul 2011 Wed 10:58 pm

 

Quoting kirstygulten11

Hello everyone, I am very new to learning turkish and I was hoping that someone would be able to help me with the sentence/paragraph that I am trying to translate from English to Turkish. I have tried at some bits of the paragraph myself but as I´ve said I´ve not long started learning turkish so any help would be greatly recieved, thankyou.

 

Hello. I added you but it´s just a random add, I saw you on my friends suggestions. I am living in England but orginally I am from Germany. I hope you don´t mind me sending this request and thank you if you accept.

 

my translation would be:

merhaba, ben seni katma, ama sadece rasgele ekle. ben seni arkadaşdayım öneri gördüm. ben İngiltere oturuyorum ama ben Almanya´dan. ben umut bu talep gönderme zihin değilsin ve teşekkür ederim kabulsan.

 

would be greatful if there is anyone out there who would be able to help me

 

thank you very much

 

Hi Kristy, Good luck with your learning Turkish . Your paragraph would be translated as follows ;

 Hello. I added you but it´s just a random add, I saw you on my friends suggestions. I am living in England but orginally I am from Germany. I hope you don´t mind me sending this request and thank you if you accept

Merhaba. Seni ekledim ama bu sadece rastgele bir eklemeydi. Seni arkadaşlarımın önerilerinde gördüm. Ben İngiltere´de yaşıyorum fakat aslen Almanyadanım. Umarım sana istek göndermemde bir sakınca yoktur.  Teşekkürler eğer kabul edersen.



Thread: Turk-Eng

5705.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Jul 2011 Wed 10:18 pm

 

Quoting tassia

ya olduğun gibi görün yada göründüğün gibi ol

 

 either exist as you are, or be as you look.

Note : this is a quote of Rumi. [ Mevlana Celaledding Rumi ] , great thinker lived in Konya centuries ago.

 



Thread: Protesters demand removal of pledge from Turkish schools

5706.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Jul 2011 Wed 03:17 am

 

Quoting Daydreamer

Apparently quite a few of your fellow countrymen do not agree...do you think they have the right to disagree with Kemal´s nationalism? Maybe they don´t have the sense of belonging to Ataturk´s children? Maybe their ethnicity comes before their nationality in their opinion? It always evokes a smirk on my face to hear about any authoritarian idea not being based on blood. Tell it to the Kurds Yeah, I know, the Ottomans were peaceful folks and it´s Europe´s loss it wasn´t able to appreciate their peaceful campaigns, and Ataturk is not responsible for any bloodshed at all. Everybody, without exception, turned to him and joyfully gave up their habits and customs. Sure, that is what people do when you give them a choice. I´m sure the protesters are American spies anyway, as 100% of Turkish society thinks in unison...

Native American citizens call themselves Native Americans as far as I´m concerned and are given special privileges.

Here´s a crazy idea: you are not obliged to love the country you grew up in, as it was not your decision. The country comes second, first comes the respect for an individual human being and their right to freedom of expression, even if they decide to openly speak about their dislike towards their homeland. You can´t force kids to love anyone. I´d hate it if my children´s school had a cult of an individual...a state should provide taxpayers with opportunities to earn their living and protect them. That´s what you pay for.

 

 

 

Belonging Ataturk´s childeren ? Ataturk never claimed to being father of Turks, that title is given to  him by Nation itself. Cus Turkish people loved and loves  him sincerely , and greatful to him for saving the country from barbaric invasion of imperialist nations. Some few people who are provoked by spider minded people thinks that He destroyed Islam in Turkey which He didnt. On the contrary He saved Muslim population and Islam in Turkey by kicking  emperialist western powers out the country. In fact those people who are protesting "national pledge " are obviously against everything that Ataturk did..Ataturk was a human being just like us.. He didnt like  to be over praised.

They can protest , no one stops them. But one thing they should know that If Ataturk didnt start the independence war those people wouldnt have own schools to send their children to. They wouldnt have mosques to worship in...they even would have had to speak  other languages as colonised nation .

 "Kemalist ideology defines the "Turkish Nation" as a nation of Turkish People who always love and seek to exalt their family, country and nation, who know their duties and responsibilities towards the democratic, secular and social state governed by the rule of law, founded on human rights, and on the tenets laid down in the preamble to the constitution of the Republic of Turkey

Kemalist nationalism is an extension of the Kemalist modernization movement. It was brought against the political domination of sheikhs, tribal leaders and Islamism (Islam as a political system). Initially the declaration of the republic was perceived as "Returning to the days of the first caliphs "However, Kemalist nationalism aimed to shift the political legitimacy from autocracy (Ottoman Dynasty), theocracy (Caliphate) and feudalism (tribal leaders) to the active participation of its citizenry, the Turks. Active participation, or the "will of the people", was established with the republican regime and Turkishness rather than other forms of affiliations that were promoted. The shift in affiliation was symbolized with:

Turkish: Ne mutlu Türküm diyene.
(English: How happy is he/she who calls himself/herself a Turk)
—Mustafa Kemal Atatürk

 

Kemalist nationalism´s social content does not accept any adjectives placed before the definition of a nation [a nation of ...]; denounces the types of national unity based on racial, religious, totalitarian and fascist ideologies, by claiming:

Unconditional, unrestricted sovereignty belongs to the people.[11]
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
 

Regarding expansionism, Kemalist nationalism opposes imperialism and aims to promote "peace" in both the domestic and the international arenas.

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Thread: Heracles to return to Turkey

5707.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Jul 2011 Tue 11:21 pm

 

Quoting barba_mama

So when are you going to give that obelix in Istanbul back to Egypt?

 

 The "Obelix" story is ;

 Theodosius the Great,who in 390  brought an obelisk from Egypt and erected it inside the racing track.  it was originally erected at the Temple of Karnak in Luxor during the reign of Tuthmosis III in about 1490 BC. Theodosius had the obelisk cut into three pieces and brought to Constantinople.

As you see ;

First point = Obeliks was brought into Istanbul during Roman Reign, Theosius the Great, it was way  before Turks.

Second point = It wasnt stolen as Egypt was part of Roman Empire.

 

 

 Note : Another item ; Hittite statue had been taken to Berlin archaeologists in 1917 and never returned to Turkey.



Thread: Protesters demand removal of pledge from Turkish schools

5708.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Jul 2011 Tue 05:46 pm

Protesters demand removal of pledge from Turkish schools

DHA photo

DHA photo

Protesters from two civil-society organizations gather Saturday in Istanbul’s Fatih district to demand the end of the daily recitation of “Our Pledge,” an oath that focuses on “Turkish values” and the greatness of founder Mustafa Kemal Atatürk.

Members from the Free Thinking and Educational Rights Association, or Özgür-Der, and the Association of Human Rights and Solidarity for Oppressed Peoples, or Mazlum-Der, gathered in front of Fatih Post Office with their children carrying signs that read, “We do not want a racist Kemalist syllabus. We are rejecting the racist pledge.“

“Schools have been turned into barracks and students have been turned into soldiers,” said the group’s spokeswoman, Zehra Türkmen. “They are trying to shape our children’s mentalities with stereotypical formal ideologies. They aim to raise generations that are unable to question anything.”

Türkmen said the group was also demanding the removal of national security classes from schools and that students be taught their mother tongue in school. The group also shouted slogans demanding that headscarves be permitted in schools.

“Our pledge’s content is in contradiction with Islamic belief and is a racist recital,” Türkmen said.

A fifth-grade student among the protestors also said being obliged to recite the pledge every day was cruel.

Protesters then sent letters listing their demands to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan’s office and the Education Ministry.

The removal of “Our Pledge” from schools was discussed last year, but former Education Minister Nimet Çubukçu said there were no current plans to end the classes

 

Note : I am proud of being a Turk. And the defination of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk´s nationalism is NOT like Hitler´s one. Ataturk´s nationalism is NOT based on blood, its based on "the feeling of belongingness " Anyone who feels that He/She belongs Turkish nation, anyone who loves this land deeply, anyone who thinks he/she has responsibility in working together for better future of this country is called  Turk.  Its like American,do people call themselves Italian because their father immigrated from Italy to America ? No,all nationalities living in America call themselves American..why it bothers people  that much ? Kurds, Laz people [living in blacksea area], Circassians, Georgians, Albanians,Arabs [Arab origin people in Antakya] living in Turkey see themselves as Turk. Islam is NOT conradicting with Ataturk´s nationalism.And plus you folks ,you are not the only one representing Islam in this beautiful country.

Happy is the one who calls himself a Turk ! [ Ne mutlu Türküm diyene ]

 

 

 

 

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Thread: Heracles to return to Turkey

5709.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Jul 2011 Tue 01:00 pm

Heracles to return to Turkey

 

1,800-year-old Roman sculpture of the mythological hero Heracles

 1,800-year-old Roman sculpture of the mythological hero Heracles

 

The top half of an 1,800-year-old Roman sculpture of the mythological hero Heracles will be returned to Turkey to rejoin the lower half of the statue which is already on display, according to The New York Times.

The statue, which has been on display at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, will soon be returned to Turkey, writer Zara Kessler reported in an article titled “Herakles, Weary No More.”

“[Heracles] went on display in Boston in April 1982. It is now in storage, having last been seen by museum visitors during a 2007 exhibition. In 1980, archaeologists found the bottom half of the statue in eight pieces in the city of Perge [in Antalya]. This portion is now in a museum in Antalya. No one documented the discovery of [Heracles’] top half, but archaeologists insist it was discovered around the same time and place,” the story said.

After years of discussion and disagreement, the story said the Boston Museum now expected to formalize the return of the upper half of the statue within the next year. “However, plans are already in the works for the full statue to return to Boston on short-term loan as early as 2012,” the story reported. According to the story, the return symbolizes another victory in a larger effort for the repatriation of works of antiquity that were taken from Turkey.

The story also noted that a Hittite statue had been taken to Berlin archaeologists in 1917 and never returned to Turkey. “Turkey’s culture minister, Ertuğrul Günay, had previously threatened not to renew German licenses for archaeological digs if the sphinx was not returned,” the story said.


Note : Good news but we want all other ones return to Turkey as well.. 

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Thread: Difference between ´Soğuk bira´ and ´Bira soğuk´

5710.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Jul 2011 Tue 12:48 pm

 

Quoting tiesto

Can someone explain the difference between´ soğuk bira´ and ´Bira soğuk´ grammaticaly,simply and clearly?

Thanks in advance.

 

 

 http://www.turkishclass.com/turkish_lesson_68  you can find useful info on the subject.

 



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