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Thread: Grammar notes

611.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Aug 2014 Fri 04:45 pm

 

Quoting MarioninTurkey

 

 

Tunci,

when would we use option 3?

 

Option 1 is the standard, as you say

O öğrenci bugün sınıftaydı

Option 2 puts an emphasis on they were in the class (e.g. someone else said they skipped lesson and were in Starbucks and you are saying, no they were in class). Is this correct? or could it also be an emphasis on today?

O öğrenci sınıftaydı bugün.

Option 3. Is this just literary or poetic? Or is there a different emphasis.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

 

Marion, the common view about emphasis in Noun Sentences is  that always on predicate. So, whether it is inverted sentence or not, emphasis is suppossed to be on predicate which is -in our case -sınıftaydı-.

Yes, your example is correct however, the third option emphasizing the the same thing which is [in the]class.

It is not necessarily poetic or literary. We use all those 3 ways in daily conversations.

 

 

 

 

 

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Thread: Grammar notes

612.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Aug 2014 Fri 11:16 am

 

Anastrophe sentence forms in Noun Clauses.

We come across sentences wherein the usual word order is inverted. To identify inverted sentence we simply look at the position of predicate in the sentence. If the predicate is in unusual place [in the begining or in the middle of the sentence] then the sentence can be called as "inverted sentence".

 

inversion in noun clauses ;

proper form [the predicate is in the end of the sentence] SOV

O öğrenci bugün sınıftaydı ---> That pupil today was in the class .

                      Predicate


Inverted form [the predicate is in the middle of the sentence]

O öğrenci sınıftaydı    bugün.  ---> That pupil was in the class today.

              Predicate     

    

Inverted form [the predicate is in the begining of the sentence]

Sınıftaydı    o öğrenci bugün.  ---> In the class was that pupil today.

 Predicate 

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Thread: E to T + attempt

613.       tunci
7149 posts
 22 Aug 2014 Fri 11:06 am

 

3. We are moving a little closer to here.

Buraya biraz daha yakın bir yere taşınıyoruz.


Note : We add dative which "taşınmak " requires. 



Edited (8/22/2014) by tunci

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Thread: Test-192

614.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Aug 2014 Wed 09:18 pm

 

Quoting denizli

4) Cebinden çük bir kutu çıkarıp sandalyenin yanına koydu.

He/She got a small box out of his/her pocket and put it next to the chair.

 

Question. The ´ıp´ in çıkarıp makes sense here. But just curious would there be another suffix that could be used instead? In other words if you have 2 verbs with an ´and´ in the same tense, do you have to use ´-ip´?

 

1) You can use "ve" 

Cebinden küçük bir kutu çıkardı ve sandalyenin yanına koydu.

 

2) You can use suffix "-erek[arak] " 

Cebinden küçük bir kutu çıkararak sandalyenin yanına koydu.

 

 

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Thread: Test-196

615.       tunci
7149 posts
 20 Aug 2014 Wed 10:02 am

 

Quoting denizli

4) Evinde  bir kedi  besleyen  yaşlı  kadın ağlayarak   bize  geldi.

The old woman who feeds a cat in her house came us by crying.

 

How about ağladığı here, would it be grammatically correct, same meaning?

 

No, it wouldn´t be correct. It would have no sense if we apply -dık participle in there.

Unless we make the changes the sentence as below :

Evinde bir kedi besleyen yaşlı kadının ağladığı günü hatırlıyorum.

I remember the day when the old woman, who feeds a cat in her house, was crying.

 

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Thread: Test-196

616.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Aug 2014 Tue 11:29 pm

 

Quoting KediNero

 

is it possible to say ağlaya ağlaya instead of ağlayarak? i guess they are same, but not sure{#emotions_dlg.think}

 

 

Absolutely. You can say "ağlaya ağlaya"  



Thread: Test-196

617.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Aug 2014 Tue 10:13 pm

 

Complete the missing parts in the sentences below.

 

1) Yaşlı kadının  evinde  beslediği   kedi  dün  onu  tırmaladı.

 The cat which the old woman feeds in her house scratched her yesterday.

 

2) Arkamızdaki  araba  bizi  geçmek  istiyor.

The car behind us wants to overtake us.

 

3) Bahçedeki   ba  ağaçlar  yapraklarını  dökmeye  başladı.

Some trees in the garden have begun to shed their leaves.

 

4) Evinde  bir kedi  besleyen  yaş kadın ağlayarak   bize  geldi.

The old woman who feeds a cat in her house came us by crying.

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Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

618.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Aug 2014 Tue 09:37 pm

 

Quoting lucybevan1988

Afferin lucy sana birşey demiyorum sen git bunlara inan bak bu sefer seni!affetmicem lucy!!!!!

 

Afferin lucy sana birşey demiyorum sen git bunlara inan bak bu sefer seni!affetmicem lucy!!!!!

 

his reply help anyone 

 

Well done Lucy,  I wont tell you anything , you go and believe in those things. Look this time I am not gonna forgive you Lucy !!!!

 



Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

619.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Aug 2014 Tue 09:33 pm

 

Quoting lucybevan1988

How do you say...

 

Baran how can this many people lie..... They said you met her in July after Side, you sat on a bench outside Olbia.... how could you do this to me........ its so horrible of you.... She said that she met your little brother ... am i not good enough to meet your parents?????

 

Why are so many girls messaging me saying this Baran ...... they said you and elena were kissing in the cafe!!! 

 

Baran bu kadar insan neden yalan söylesin..... Onunla temmuzda tanıştığınızı söylediler, yani Side´den sonra.. Olbia´nın dışında bir bankta oturduğunuzu da söylediler.... Bunu bana nasıl yapabilirsin....Yaptığın çok çirkin bir şey... Senin küçük kardeşinle bile tanıştığını söyledi.... ben senin ailenle tanışabilecek kadar iyi birisi değil miyim ???

Neden o kadar çok kız bana mesaj atıp bana bunu söylüyorlar Baran.....  Senin Elenayla kafede öpüştüğünü söylediler !!!!

 



Thread: PLEASE HELP :(((((

620.       tunci
7149 posts
 19 Aug 2014 Tue 06:42 pm

 

These girls are not lying they have also fallen out with Elena and said she’s a bad bad person and not nice. But they promised that Elena was so jealous over you and loved you so much. I AM IN SHOCK!!!!! Tell me the truth did you cheat on me with her? I would be less mad if you told me the truth

 

Bu kızlar yalan söylemiyor. Onlar da Elena´yla bozuşmuşlardı ve dediler ki Elena iyi birisi değilmiş. Ama Elena çok seni çok kıskanıyor ve seni çok seviyormuş öyle dediler. ŞOKTAYIM !!!!  Gerçeği söyle beni onunla aldattın mı ? Gerçeği söylersen sana olan kızgınlığım hafifler.




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