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Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1321.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:20 am

You look very graceful in that traditional dress Azade. What region is that?



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1322.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:11 am

Ok you are welcome to completely disagree with me. You will however say good bye to the possibility of having any sort of agreements with those whose private decisions you criticize. As the word suggests, a private decision concerns someone's own life. If it does not it is not a private decision, if it is and if some other person pokes her nose into her decision than we have more problems than when we started.

Congratulations on your country then but I prefer my country...



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1323.       vineyards
1954 posts
 07 Dec 2007 Fri 12:08 am

Such fundemental decisions are already punishable by law, so nothing is left uncovered. Our ancestors must have thought about that already. Terrorists are either shot down in mountains or apprehended by the police.



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1324.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 11:54 pm

No there is a mistake, you are not criticizing opinions but the fundamental decisions an individual makes in her life.

We are free to criticize opinions but we have no authority to criticize private decisions unless of course they are made by our very close friends.



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1325.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 11:47 pm

Quoting AEnigma III:

Quoting azade:

Maybe you wouldn't be so cocky if you came with me one time. You really need to open your eyes.



lol lol lol
You think Femme has not experienced other cultures or "lived" in the big wide world? You think she needs to see how your life in Denmark is so different when you visit your boyfriend's family in Turkey and dress up in their clothes and play at being a muslim girl? lol



But Aenigma isn't she entitled to doing whatever she wants with her life just like we do. What she does is the best thing for her. It is not up to us to criticize her decisions.



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1326.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 11:42 pm

Femme you mix up reasoning with faith. Your mind tells you that Islam is wrong, biased towards males etc. For a believer what you are saying doesn't hold any water at all. Because there is no reason in religion there are just revelations which prohibit certain things and allow others. When you believe in God, you do not stand a chance to appear in front of God and say what you are ordering me is wrong. Essentially, your brain is a product of God therefore if God says you are a mob you wouldn't help getting dipped in a bucket and wipe the ground. There are no freedoms in religion except for those granted by God.

You are free to believe in whatever you want but you are not welcome to criticize other believers. I usually think I am a reasonable person who has some intelligence. Do I know what human was made for? I don't have the first idea. I don't know who God is. I don't know what God expects of us. I really don't understand those who have devoted themselves to one of the available options. Nevertheless, I can't claim to know more than they do about what man's duty in this universe is.

Do you sincerely hope to start a new fashion in countries where women voluntarily or unvoluntarily wear hijabs by shouting those slogans? Who will care about your invitations? How do you hope to achieve that before correcting the major failures of those societies in other departments?

Such things require a lot of self-sacrifice; painstaking efforts, years of work and careful planning. Proving that is so easy. Would you devote your personal resources to free one such Afghani woman and watch her transform herself into a Western woman. Unless you physically change her environment and support her for an extended period of time she cannot complete the transformation as quickly as you are implying in your slogans. Were the civilized female population geniunely interested in this problem, there would be people who'd actively fight for this cause and free a number of individuals every year.

Last but not least, slogans can be effective but in the end, it is the deeds that matter. As we Turks say: "Don't pound water in a mortar"



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1327.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:37 am

Well I would say "unless". Yawwnn



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1328.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:35 am

Well your reaction will never gain ground as long as you are equally reactant and protestive to those who foster these regimes.



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1329.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:33 am

I am too sleepy...



Thread: Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

1330.       vineyards
1954 posts
 06 Dec 2007 Thu 02:30 am

So, do you also agree that it is wrong to point your finger at Islam. There is an ongoing campain that tries to depict Islam as a satanic belief.

If your mind is bad, you can blow someone's brain and claim you did it for God's sake. You did what you did and you did it personally. When you see things like this, maybe you can consider this problem in the context of Islamic fundamentalism. In the end, Saudi regime is responsible for that.

The point I am trying to make is, Saudi skies will probably never see US jets bombing their land because they don't pose a threat to the US. On the contrary, they are a close ally and are great friends.



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