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Thread: Polish guy gets killed by Canadian customs police

1381.       vineyards
1954 posts
 16 Nov 2007 Fri 05:43 pm

40 year old Polish citizen Dziekanski was kept waiting for 10 hours at a Canadian airport. When he loses his temper and throws his notebook pc at the window of the waiting room where he is kept the police raids in and applies him electroshock as a result of which he loses his life.

Let's say no to harsh treatment at customs. This world is so designed only the affluent can enjoy it. We are humans and we have a right to be anywhere in this world. We certainly don't deserve bad treatment.



Thread: Turkish girls!!!

1382.       vineyards
1954 posts
 16 Nov 2007 Fri 05:25 pm

I am 181 cms. I sometimes wish I were taller. How tall is tall enough?



Thread: Turkish girls!!!

1383.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Nov 2007 Thu 04:01 am

1-) Are we really against generalizations?
2-) Don't we sometimes ridicule people because of their special ways, cultures or personalities?
3-) Is it really forbidden to talk about religions and politics in this forum? If so why such matters have always been high on the agenda?
4-) Now that we are in favour of personal freedoms; why can't we tolerate people's faiths and the ways they shape their lives around them.
5-) What must be done to stop people from flaming one another taking every little excuse?



Thread: Turkish State Brothels

1384.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 04:11 pm

What is your understanding of society femme? Do you consider society as a setting exclusively designed for people living up to certain norms? Society contains all sorts of people and it is not very fair to everyone to begin with.
There are crime and corruption in society because people that make up society are that way. If you cannot remove sources of crime and prevent people from becoming the victims of society, you cannot simply compensate for this by penalizing those who have nothing left to lose.



Thread: Islamic cars?

1385.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 06:31 am

That's a marketing trick. If it featured anyone of the below I would call it a revolutionary concept.

* An anti gravity system equipped with gyros to turn the passengers to Kabah regardless of where they are heading.

* An advanced GPS system to show nearby mosques. The car will automatically zip in, on finding a suitable parking space.

* A rosary hanging from the steering wheel which can be used to shift gears as well.

* A liquified crystal based windshield connected to a pattern recognizing computer that will detect obscenety around and darken the pane to avoid eye contact.

* Automatic internal ezan broadcast featuring a radio link with the most popular mosque in the vicinity.

* A shoe cupboard mounted on the parcel shelf as shoes are to be removed before entering.





Thread: Turkish State Brothels

1386.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 05:27 am

It is not voluntary prostitution. Therefore it is not legal in the first place. Even to know their individual stories and to offer them a way out you need to communicate to them. I am not singing praises for prostitutes. I am just trying to draw your attention to a multi facated drama they are going through. All that you have so far mentioned is also a result of the lack of sympathy and communication between them and society.



Thread: Turkish State Brothels

1387.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 02:59 am

If you are married you should not cheat your wife whether it be with a prostitute or with some other woman.

Prostitution is a reality of life. They have always existed and they have a right to do so. Just imagine how many prostitutes there are in the world and what they would do if their profession were banned.

Fire arms are also freely available to those wishing to have one. Are all gun owners murderers? (Although I am in favour of banning fire arms, I can't say they all are).

Nevertheless, there are certain points in how Turks approach sexuality that can be criticized. Young boys are usually pushed by an older friend or sometimes (though rare) by a family member to go and have their first experience in a brothel. For example, that never happened to me. It is not an iron clad rule. This is probably more common in poorer quarters where people have little chance to have any sort of relationship with the other sex. Is it wrong? Yes, it is wrong is inseparable from a certain class of corruption that is present in all societies.

Here is a question to you: what do you think about the demonizing of prostitutes and gays? Do you approve of their being excommunicated from society? There are many prostitutes with excellent personalities and much more power to endure the hardships of life compared to an average person. If they work for a brothel, they pay their tax to the last penny. Why should they be regarded just like extra terrestrials? We should at least greet them in the street and support them to help them hold a place in society.



Thread: Turkish State Brothels

1388.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Nov 2007 Mon 02:15 am

It is true that there are many prostitutes in Turkey and not only Turkish ones but there are also Russian, Moldovian, Romanian and Ukrainian prostitutes too. Prostitiution is a very profitable business; they earn a lot and spend a lot. If a prostitute is doing business in a better part of the city she often drives a car much more expensive than most and lives in an apartment larger and better than most.

There is also a strong gay community in my country. I do have some gay friends and sometimes I accompany them when they go to gay bars. (They appreciate that so much.) They have very sophisticated ways to communicate with one another as most of them constantly change partners.

A favourite gathering place for gays in Istanbul is Neo Bar. They are very active. They organize many events to attract the gay population of the city making it possible for them to get to know one another and stand together.

I have neither paid for sex nor am I thinking of but I believe this sector does help society in some ways. As long as legal and healthy and done voluntarily I see nothing wrong in that.



Thread: anyone plays the ney?

1389.       vineyards
1954 posts
 11 Nov 2007 Sun 04:55 pm

http://www.neyci.com/videoana1.html

I think I gave you an incomplete link. Try that one above.



Thread: anyone plays the ney?

1390.       vineyards
1954 posts
 11 Nov 2007 Sun 04:08 am

I've found this site: http://www.neyci.com. They promise they will add video lessons soon. Unfortunately, the site is in Turkish but if you click on the ILETISIM tab and send an e-mail to the site admin he would probably help you in some way.

If you are going to play Turkish music, you will have to learn the Turkish music notation system as well as unique rhythm patterns which are very different from the Western ones. Additionally, you will have to master Turkish makams.

I wish I could help you more. I tried that ney thing once or twice and on failing to make it sound, I decided to put an end to my career as a ney player.



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