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Thread: Armenians-Turks

1441.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Oct 2007 Mon 02:53 pm

Yilgun, if you did not include that final statement in your article, some of your readers would get curious about the sources that you referred to. Claiming that the enemy of the Turks are the enemy of the entire world is not only wrong but also utterly ridiculous.

Did everyone base their arguments on nationalistic feelings, there would be no need for science at all. We all want to get rid of the patriotic aspects of history and favour scientific objectivity instead, no matter how difficult to achieve in real life that would be.

If we were to write history with a notion like yours, what difference would there be between that and the legends or annals of the distant past?



Thread: Armenians-Turks

1442.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Oct 2007 Mon 10:08 am

There is a common prejudice about all things Turkish. In many major international conflicts all the world got together and formed an allied front against Turkey. Ultimately beginning from 1071 when Turks entered Asia Minor and then when they captured Istanbul in 1453 they were regarded by Europeans as the common enemy. Consequently, any non Turkish elements existing within them were considered as the natural allies of the West. Greeks were the heroes of Lord Byron who regarded their country as the cradle of civilization and dedicated some of his best poems to urge the West to come to help of Greece to aid its war of independence. Lawrence of Arabia stirred conflicts in the Middle East shedding Turkish blood in attempt to turn Arabic clans into a nation in line with the expectations of his native country to architect a complex system involving tens of weak artificial countries that would remain in a state of constant conflict. Islamic fundementalism was a naturally existing weapon which was used to start revolts or destroy order whenever it was needed. (e.g. Kut war, Afghanistan, Invasion of Iraq).
Russians and Armenians due to religious and cultural reasons collaborated during the invasion of our country by Russian troops. They had been active both before and during the invasion through country wide political organizations the most notable of which was the Tashnak party whose ultimate goal was establishing an Armenian state in Anatolia. After this point no body knows what exactly happened there are claims about Turks forcing Armenians to leave the region which caused many of them to lose their lives as a result of weeks of relentless walking in bad weather. There are further claims blaming Armenian gangs of raiding Turkish towns and killing hundreds of civilians in some cases gathering them in mosques and burning them. There are all sorts of claims from both sides which are equally terrifying.


I as a citizen of this country neither approve of nor support the killing of civilians and would be very ashamed if anyone of my ancestors did anything like that. Nevertheless, we are not certain about exactly what happened there. It is easy to rave about historical events basing on fragments of knowledge. Aram and Mehmet lived on the same soil for nearly a thousand years. They were both humans and it must be equally saddening to hear what they suffered in the past. We cannot turn a deaf ear to the complaints of one and support the other unconditionally. We must leave the task of finding out what really happened there to historians. We have no better alternative than that.



Thread: Armenians-Turks

1443.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Oct 2007 Mon 12:29 am

There is no moderation here. I've just a bottle of a decent white. I normally would not consider anything other than a fine red a proper wine but now I have to think again. That's the biggest puzzle I am facing at the moment.
As for this everlasting haggle over who killed those Armenians: I must state I really have nothing against Armenians, I like their music, I like their ways and I had a great Armenian friend during my university years. I detest those who killed them whatever the reason was. I am ashamed of all the mistakes (possible and actual) of my ancestors but I think I cannot be held responsible for the sins they committed in a world full of sins everywhere.



Thread: Here is a poem I wrote in English and translated into Turkish:

1444.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:41 pm

Saol Ihya ettin beni.



Thread: Question

1445.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:35 pm

It is Avro. Some people including myself prefer Euro exactly as it is pronounced in English. Many people don't like that version and I think we are wrong and they are right. Somehow, I don't feel like saying Avro though. Partly because the word Avro violates the second wovel harmony rule that states plain wovels cannot coexist with round wovels in a word.



Thread: Here is a poem I wrote in English and translated into Turkish:

1446.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:33 pm

Teşekkürler. Şiirin aslını İngilizce yazmıştım çevirisi o kadar iyi olmadı her halde.



Thread: Here is a poem I wrote in English and translated into Turkish:

1447.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:21 am

Thank you. I wish you will get over your problems and be happy soon...



Thread: Types of Jobs in Turkey for Americans

1448.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 11:12 am

Well, I worked as an IT Department manager for a 2500 employee firm for 6 years and am fluent in a couple of programming languages, I also set up firewalls, mail servers, DNS and you name it. Due to a crisis in the country many firms went bankrupt and their IT staffs were laid off. Despite all my knowledge and experience, I had to change my profession about three years ago and established a small company specializing in electronics device development instead. Ever since that day, I have been able to maintain the business at a break even state.
Was the IT sector as profitable as it used to be, I would not discard my own career in the first place.

Presently, I have the idea that working for yourself is thousand times better than working for somebody else if you can turn your ideas into a business.



Thread: Types of Jobs in Turkey for Americans

1449.       vineyards
1954 posts
 12 Oct 2007 Fri 03:35 am

Quoting mey0722:

I apologize upfront if this is a repeat question.

I am curious about what types of jobs are available in Turkey for someone with a Masters Degree from a U.S. University. I'm female, if that makes a difference, in my 30's. I have taught English as a Second Language at a University in the U.S. in the past, so I know I can probably teach English in Turkey, but what other types of jobs could I possibly get? Currently I work in an office at a college. With these qualifications and NO knowledge of the Turkish language, whare there any other prospects for me other than teaching?I do plan to learn Turkish, but I won't be fluent anytime soon. Also, any idea of salaries?

MANY THANKS!!





I don't know how your writing is but you could also try your chance in journalism. There are a couple of English language newspapers (most notably Turkish Daily News.) Don't expect a fat salary though. After gaining some experience there you could look for better opportunities with international publications. You should keep in touch with other expatriates. This way you can be informed of employment opportunities much more efficiently than you would on your own.

Istanbul is not as expensive as the EU cities. Once you have learned how to do your shopping economically, you will will get by on a tight budget in this relatively cheap city. In Turkey vegetables and fruits are cheaper, electronics, liquors, energy, gasoline etc are more expensive. Cars are also a bit pricey. For example, I could have bought a Mercedes in Germany with the amount I paid on my Seat Toledo.

A very smart idea would be finding the job before coming to the country. There are lots of companies having operations in our country. If you communicate your plans about living in Turkey, something may possibly be arranged.

The US dollar has recently lost a lot of value. That's another point to consider. The rent for a mediocre apartment can be as high as 1000 YTL or about $850. If you require furniture as well it may go up significantly.



Thread: iyi geceler...günaydın...

1450.       vineyards
1954 posts
 10 Oct 2007 Wed 11:26 pm

Well, I am a serious person and that cannot be helped.



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