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Turkish women and attitudes to men
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 02:34 pm |
Quoting ilka: guys, controlling and manipulating women, like e.g. patience said.. isn´t that a terribly lonely and dissatisfying kind of life..??
by the way, i don´t need to manipulate people, ´cause they like being with me anyway.. |
yeah i think its very lonely... and what is worse is that it does actually satisfy these weird dudes...
and manipulation.. dont even get me started on that one...
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 04:45 pm |
you really do not understand, do you? i love women.. and respect them.. everyone deserves respect.. but respect is something and being dominant in a relationship is something else.. and just like mltm said, being leaded is not something bad or despising.. i dont beat women.. i never do.. and its not something that you makes you strong but on the contrary it shows your weakness in many ways..
i believe in caring and tender relationships, too.. but we have some wrong ideas about the true love.. even in fair relationships there are times that someone should take the control.. you might ask "so why not women would take the control?".. it could be.. but only in conditions that the men are weak.. and i am not trying to humiliate women here.. but i know the strength and the beauty of trusting someone and doing what he asks you to.. it is about true love.. what is it when you give and expect the same from the other? i tell you.. its not love.. its maybe dealing.. a kind of business.. but not love.. for having the true love you should know how to trust.. even it doesnt make sense all the time you should have this attitude.. being protected or obeying someone is something special..
i am telling that again.. i am a caveman.. and i can love my woman with the caveman's heart and this will make her feel great.. you should try it.. or you will always be looking for the true love and asking yourself why life has treated so cruel to you..
the biggest lie of our century is that women and men are equal.. men are stronger and women are beautifull
Quoting catwoman: mltm you sound in your posts like you and patience are the same thing. |
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 04:47 pm |
you sound like a great person....
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 05:02 pm |
i am, indeed..
Quoting miss_ceyda: you sound like a great person.... |
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 05:29 pm |
i´m sure you´re a nice person, patience.. but maybe you´re just missing out on sth when you don´t dare to be weak sometimes...?
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 05:53 pm |
Quoting ilka: i´m sure you´re a nice person, patience.. but maybe you´re just missing out on sth when you don´t dare to be weak sometimes...? |
very well put...
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 06:10 pm |
i personally dont think that this is a "male-female" thang either... i mean, i can also say that i dont like to ask for help... and when i do.. its usually urgent! or sth which i really need! and as u probably know, i am female... so maybe everyone should stop stereotyping people because of their gender. that is also sth. which irritates me because i believe that everyone in one indiviual whom should be looked upon and judged by the person who they are, not what gender, nationality, religion or whatever that they are.
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 06:48 pm |
i know you are a female.. and a pretty one anyway..
i dont think like you do.. gender, religion, culture.. these are important things.. men and women are different.. even when we are 2 years old, we are different..
we all want to feel unique.. but in most sides, we are just the same.. it may not sound nice to you.. but thats the way it is.. i want the same things that Adam wanted.. i want to rule over the world.. and i want Eve beside me.. i can stand against god or all the other sacred things for these.. we all want the same.. some finds.. some doesnt even have the courage to look for this and try to cover this up with something else; like their jobs, cats, gardening, sex, science.. but as i always say; "a man is a man.. and a woman is a woman at the end".. this not good or bad.. this is the way it is..
of course you have a different place in your gender.. thats where love gets into the subject.. but i am a man and you are a woman.. and if we get involved each other, we will have our different places in that relationship.. (i am not asking you out.. dont worry)
Quoting miss_ceyda: i personally dont think that this is a "male-female" thang either... i mean, i can also say that i dont like to ask for help... and when i do.. its usually urgent! or sth which i really need! and as u probably know, i am female... so maybe everyone should stop stereotyping people because of their gender. that is also sth. which irritates me because i believe that everyone in one indiviual whom should be looked upon and judged by the person who they are, not what gender, nationality, religion or whatever that they are. |
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 06:52 pm |
Quoting patience: i know you are a female.. and a pretty one anyway..
i dont think like you do.. gender, religion, culture.. these are important things.. men and women are different.. even when we are 2 years old, we are different..
we all want to feel unique.. but in most sides, we are just the same.. it may not sound nice to you.. but thats the way it is.. i want the same things that Adam wanted.. i want to rule over the world.. and i want Eve beside me.. i can stand against god or all the other sacred things for these.. we all want the same.. some finds.. some doesnt even have the courage to look for this and try to cover this up with something else; like their jobs, cats, gardening, sex, science.. but as i always say; "a man is a man.. and a woman is a woman at the end".. this not good or bad.. this is the way it is..
of course you have a different place in your gender.. thats where love gets into the subject.. but i am a man and you are a woman.. and if we get involved each other, we will have our different places in that relationship.. (i am not asking you out.. dont worry)
Quoting miss_ceyda: i personally dont think that this is a "male-female" thang either... i mean, i can also say that i dont like to ask for help... and when i do.. its usually urgent! or sth which i really need! and as u probably know, i am female... so maybe everyone should stop stereotyping people because of their gender. that is also sth. which irritates me because i believe that everyone in one indiviual whom should be looked upon and judged by the person who they are, not what gender, nationality, religion or whatever that they are. |
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that is a respectable opinion... all of it hihi
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28 Nov 2005 Mon 09:11 pm |
yes, of course men are different then women. after all one is male and another is female, one gives birth to children, another doesn't, one is pretty, another is physically strong. individuals are also different from each other and they have good relationships when they match according to their needs - in one relationship the man is better at making decisions and in another one - the woman is the boss. it is all fine when these things are decided freely and consciously and not as a result of some weird cultural thing that says that the woman is supposed to be her husband's slave, sex object or any other despicable thing.
you are a cavemen patience and hopefully you'll find a woman who will enjoy your attitude but also in case your behaviour is even less nice then your talking hopefully she will know her rights and will not let you hurt or disrespect her in any way.
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