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Turkish women and attitudes to men
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80.       catwoman
8933 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 09:11 pm

yes, of course men are different then women. after all one is male and another is female, one gives birth to children, another doesn't, one is pretty, another is physically strong. individuals are also different from each other and they have good relationships when they match according to their needs - in one relationship the man is better at making decisions and in another one - the woman is the boss. it is all fine when these things are decided freely and consciously and not as a result of some weird cultural thing that says that the woman is supposed to be her husband's slave, sex object or any other despicable thing.
you are a cavemen patience and hopefully you'll find a woman who will enjoy your attitude but also in case your behaviour is even less nice then your talking hopefully she will know her rights and will not let you hurt or disrespect her in any way.

81.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 09:12 pm

Quoting patience:

i have my own weaknesses like anyone else.. but i have other things that i can cover this.. having weaknesses is something and acting weak is something else.. for example i never ask for help.. because it might make me seem weak.. i know.. even this is a weakness.. i mean not to be able to ask for help.. but you know how men are.. our biggest weakness is that we can not admit this..
dont tell me that showing my weaknesses will help me finding the one who will love me the way i am.. but listen! no girl would really like that.. so its not mens fault being like this.. its because of women.. we are just trying to give what they want from us..

Quoting ilka:

i´m sure you´re a nice person, patience.. but maybe you´re just missing out on sth when you don´t dare to be weak sometimes...?






OMG I JUST REALISED THAT IT WAS U WHO WROTE THIS HEHE

82.       miss_ceyda
2627 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 09:14 pm

Quoting catwoman:

yes, of course men are different then women. after all one is male and another is female, one gives birth to children, another doesn't, one is beautiful, another is physically strong. individuals are also different from each other and they have good relationships when they match according to their needs - in one relationship the man is better at making decisions and in another one - the woman is the boss. it is all fine when these things are decided freely and consciously and not as a result of some weird cultural thing that says that the woman is supposed to be her husband's slave, sex object or any other despicable thing.
you are a cavemen patience and hopefully you'll find a woman who will enjoy your attitude but also in case your behaviour is even less nice then your talking hopefully she will know her rights and will not let you hurt or disrespect her in any way.

Ü


YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVENT BEEN ON THE END OF PATIENCE'S "NICE" TALKING THEN HEHE

83.       patience
0 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:23 pm

i am a caveman.. no need to argue.. when i look at a woman, i think of what she can do for me.. not what i can do for her.. i will give as long as i take.. or maybe a little bit more sometimes for the good sake of our past.. but when i quit receiving, the end is certain sonner or later! but you should really understand what i mean by "receiving".. its sometimes sexual, sometimes moral, sometimes consciencial or emotional.. i am not just looking for a woman that i can lie with.. thats never enough for the caveman we have feelings too.. and believe me, cavemen are not always despotic.. there are much easier ways to get what we want.. ways that will not bother our consciences.. and when you see a gentleman that you might think there are no caveman genes in him, you should know that he is just using those ways that i told you..
do you think anyone will ever decide by her own will to give the strenght and the control to the other person in any relationship? noone does that.. one just get it.. and the other one just rationalizes the situation.. "oh, he loves me very much", "he helps me with the cook", "i am the one who decided on the color of our paintings", "he really satisfies me" etc..
i am not trying to tell that i am different.. we are all cavemen with our own ways to get what we want.. your loving father has that.. your beloved has that.. and you are all being used, ladies.. or you are so lonely

Quoting catwoman:

yes, of course men are different then women. after all one is male and another is female, one gives birth to children, another doesn't, one is beautiful, another is physically strong. individuals are also different from each other and they have good relationships when they match according to their needs - in one relationship the man is better at making decisions and in another one - the woman is the boss. it is all fine when these things are decided freely and consciously and not as a result of some weird cultural thing that says that the woman is supposed to be her husband's slave, sex object or any other despicable thing.
you are a cavemen patience and hopefully you'll find a woman who will enjoy your attitude but also in case your behaviour is even less nice then your talking hopefully she will know her rights and will not let you hurt or disrespect her in any way.

84.       Lyndie
968 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:33 pm

Well Patience! This is a fascinating insight into the male psyche! Who uses who? You say that all ladies are being used by their men? Well maybe sometimes tatlı you are also being used OR maybe you are afraid to choose the kind of woman who could use you.

İ think you have not yet met your match in love and life. When you do she will eat you alive. You will be so in love and she will be cool. You wıll worship the ground that she walks on and she will treat you like a worm! Ãœffff canım benım. Wait for this lady and you will beg her to use you!

85.       patience
0 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:35 pm

by the way i need to say that most of the times MY WOMANs satisfaction is really connected with my satisfaction directly.. so its not just "gimme gimme" thing.. we feed them and we make them feel comfortable and unique

86.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:38 pm

i never thought that this topic will take 10 pages.. woowww how those women affect by you patience you damn cavemen but indeed he is some right at some points anybody is rite about his or her points.. as i got from the way of our talkings we are supposed as behind those " men" whom i cant describe as human that bites drinks swears shouts and dies... yea a typo of living we cant judge god bless the ppl around them... but we arent supporting those guys... as all the ppl in this forum are wellknowledged and clever... so for sure we are some modern and have respect in relations... but as years pass some values are changing unfortunately... and the reality is changing patience has some role on showing those realities... as he is so open in talking... if you see him he is not that kinda cavemen believe me...
well whatever... keep peace buddies you are all saying truth but reality is hard to accept isnt it... so good luck..

87.       mltm
3690 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:41 pm

patience you must be kidding.
Yes, as I am looking for, most women look for a caring and protective men, but the things you said are very selfish demands. For me a protective man is never selfish, that's why it would make me feel safe. He should want the good things for me, not anything that would make me feel sad or suppress my personality. I should be satisfied emotionally by my man, and should see that I'm not always the giving one. Otherwise I would be a fool. I'm not his object, if I cared for him and dedicated myself to him, this would be because I saw that he was doing sacrificies for me as well.

88.       Lyndie
968 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:45 pm

Quoting patience:

by the way i need to say that most of the times MY WOMANs satisfaction is really connected with my satisfaction directly.. so its not just "gimme gimme" thing.. we feed them and we make them feel comfortable and unique



OOOfffff Patıence. Your women sound like pet dogs! You feed them and make them comfortable and unıque. Do you take them for walks and stroke them? Do you throw them the odd bone to make their tails wag?

Did you ever ask any of 'them' if their satisfaction is connected to yours? Or is this just something you are assuming yourself? İs your ego so huge that you are quite sure that they are only happy if you are? İs your happiness really all they want from life? Actually are you sure they really WERE women? Women have 2 legs walk upright and tend to be beautiful. Dogs have 4 legs are covered in fur have cold noses and waggy tails (just for your information so you can be sure which species you have been satisfying for all these years

89.       SuiGeneris
3922 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:47 pm

oh my god! another freuds are coming to world... whatever i will be late to my event... nice to watch The Soup Opera

90.       patience
0 posts
 28 Nov 2005 Mon 10:47 pm

now you are talking! thats exactly what i mean..
obeying someone that you think its bigger and stronger than you is not despising all the time..
i am longing for that one woman who will make me drink from the waters of the river of pain and misery that kind of a woman is the dream of all men.. even the kings in the deep inside want s to have that special woman who will reign over him.. use him with a very passionate way that we never had..
so my lovely Lyndie, we came to the first place again.. we are using you for our needs of being used..

Quoting Lyndie:

Well Patience! This is a fascinating insight into the male psyche! Who uses who? You say that all ladies are being used by their men? Well maybe sometimes tatlı you are also being used OR maybe you are afraid to choose the kind of woman who could use you.

İ think you have not yet met your match in love and life. When you do she will eat you alive. You will be so in love and she will be cool. You wıll worship the ground that she walks on and she will treat you like a worm! Ãœffff canım benım. Wait for this lady and you will beg her to use you!

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