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Why should Turkey restrain from entering Irak?
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10.       KeithL
1455 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:07 pm

4 years ago, the PKK was quiet and at a truce with Turkey. In the last 4 years, they have stepped up their attacks. Turkey would have voted to allow the US access to NW Irak as I said if they were allowed to join the operation.

11.       Serdar07
428 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:08 pm

Quoting KeithL:

Several bombs set by the PKK have gone off near my home. Most notably, the HSBC Bank building at the levent metro station. I do not need a politician to tell me the PKK is a problem and we need to dismantle them. The military has known this for years and has held off because of the politicians.


Ok If you are seeing the issue personally then I can tell you about my family. 30 persons killed in an evening of May 3rd, 1988 by Saddam's Army in a very far village from any battle field. All civil not armed! Do you have time to tell their gender and ages, to be sure there were not armed people???

12.       KeithL
1455 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:09 pm

And your people have a right to defend themselves. I'm not disagreeing with you serdar.

13.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:13 pm

Quoting KeithL:

OK Teaship,
Your recent history is very wrong. Turkey turned down money from the US to allow the invasion to take place from Turkish borders. Why? Because Turkey was not allowed to participate in the invasion. This would be the equivelent of the US allowing an ally to attack mexico from texas. And have the nerve to tell the US to stay out of it. Turkey acted honorably. The US money that goes to turkey for air bases is no different than the money all NATO nations receive for allowing air bases in their country. Its called rent. The pentagon considers this rent money well spent I assure you.



You must reread my post then KeithL, I was referring to after the invasion, they did accept 2 billion. Feel free to research this fact. And I can tell you the pentagon did not see this as well spent money for something that they were refused to use. You didn't respond to WHY NOW?

14.       Serdar07
428 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:14 pm

Quoting KeithL:

And your people have a right to defend themselves. I'm not disagreeing with you serdar.



Then Good Friend Keithl...
I am in the region and know it well as the Turkish Army know that very well... PKK terrorist in a mountain called ( Kandil) shared by three countries Iraq, Turkey and Iran,, But the Turkish Army now shelling civils in villages which are 300 KM away from that mountain. So the presure now not on the thieves but on the innocent people. Wish you could belive me and best wishes to all!!

15.       KeithL
1455 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:17 pm

I believe you serdar. Nothing about this war with the PKK is pretty.

16.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:17 pm

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting KeithL:

And your people have a right to defend themselves. I'm not disagreeing with you serdar.



Then Good Friend Keithl...
I am in the region and know it well as the Turkish Army know that very well... PKK terrorist in a mountain called ( Kandil) shared by three countries Iraq, Turkey and Iran,, But the Turkish Army now shelling civils in villages which are 300 KM away from that mountain. So the presure now not on the thieves but on the innocent people. Wish you could belive me and best wishes to all!!



I hope you can stay safe..

17.       KeithL
1455 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:18 pm

As I said teaship, the PKK had a cease fire with turkey for several years. Since the US invasion of Irak, their suicide bombings in turkey have begun again.

18.       Serdar07
428 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:22 pm

Quoting teaschip1:

Quoting Serdar07:

Quoting KeithL:

And your people have a right to defend themselves. I'm not disagreeing with you serdar.



Then Good Friend Keithl...
I am in the region and know it well as the Turkish Army know that very well... PKK terrorist in a mountain called ( Kandil) shared by three countries Iraq, Turkey and Iran,, But the Turkish Army now shelling civils in villages which are 300 KM away from that mountain. So the presure now not on the thieves but on the innocent people. Wish you could belive me and best wishes to all!!



I hope you can stay safe..



Thank you dear for your nice feelings and good wish!

19.       teaschip
3870 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:23 pm

And you really believe the smart thing for the Turkish people would be to cross into Iraq and fight?

20.       Serdar07
428 posts
 18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:26 pm

Quoting KeithL:

As I said teaship, the PKK had a cease fire with turkey for several years. Since the US invasion of Irak, their suicide bombings in turkey have begun again.



Can't you imagine this new declartion and new situation is a part of the election game in USA between the Republican and Democrates. Oh please read the events very clearly and rember why Clinton lost the last game!!!!

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