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Why should Turkey restrain from entering Irak?
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 02:42 am |
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Quoting alameda: This is a very naive statement. |
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And İtaly should demand the Roman's land, and Pharaoh's ask for their land too,and the chance will come finally for Native americans to take both their land and their rights !
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 03:08 am |
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Quoting teaschip1: It did not take more than a few months for Indonasia and the representatives of Aceh to solve the "Aceh Problem," but it has taken more than 80 years for the Turks to recognize the very existence of the Kurdish people.
Turkey wants to become a member of the EU, but the behavior of Turkey is far from that of civilized Europe. The Turks don't even recognise the Iraqi Constitution and refuse negotiating with any Iraqi delegation with representatives of the Kurdistan Regional Government in it. If you don't negotiate with the constitutionally recognized Kurdistan Regional Government, then how can you expect them to solve your problems?!
Turks are famous for their nationalism. How does the average Turk view the possibility of getting more involved in this war?
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Tea,
Pls,dont assume that we are fools and going to buy it .
İf you 'Americans ' are believeing it to rest your Conscience,we do NOT.
There is NO İraqi Constitution,there is No Iraqi governments too.
They are bunch of traitors serving the enemy,the country which invade them !
And dont give me that nonsense that you were free İraq from Saddam,and you are building new İraq.
Who made Saddam ?!
Who killed him ?
And who destroyed İraq ?
And whose companies are building it ?!!
So talking about being civilized,and asking Türkiye for that is kind of wierd !
You made me feel that you are sitting in a high tower and you dont really know or feel what other suffer there.
Let me tell you a fact tea,you are not making İraq a favour by being there, you are sucking İraq .
Like it or not,you are İNVADERS,and you invaded İraq,and you are still there,so pls dont start talking about being civilized !
A Government under the invaders authority doesnt represent the country,it represnt the enemy.
We've been there too,so we know it.
They wont have a real governemnt until they kick the invaders out of their OWN land.
And untill İraq form a governmet from the İraqian people then all what İraq has is just some Americans puppets .
And as thehandsom said,i too suggest you read some history,Middle East History,and you will understand alot from whats going on there if you want .
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 03:20 am |
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Time for Iraqies to wake up....Iraq is now practically divided into three parts.
A part under Shiite control, in close ties with Iran; the Sunni part; and the bonus tentatively reserved for PKK , the Northern Iraq.
What USA is looking for is an ally in the area, for his dirty game. If Turkia agrees to support the USA's dirty game (which she will not), Americans will not hesitate to sell the PKK and the whole of the Kurdish population, in Turks favor...not for one second. But Turkish people have now sensed that there is something rotten in USA intentions. There is no civil Turkish government that can fullfil USA wishes against the better judgement of her own people.
Turkey, if she can be lured or intimidated to follow USA, against her own interests is obviously a better organised and stronger ally. But that is not how it is going to work: Syria, Turkia and Iran are now wise to the Americans game..Russia is alert...China is disturbed.
USA REPUBLICANS can start a new world war..
Good luck all!
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 03:33 am |
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Those who are really interested in the issue should check the international treaties as to how the sovereignity of original IRAQ and her boundaries were set up and try to see what happens if Iraq, which was a party to those treaties, ceases to exist, as defined in those treaties.
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 04:30 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting mylo: Please give us some!our health service is being privatised as we speak,we are taxed to the hilt,all public services have been privatised from the Thatcher years,all industry is now in third world countries(jobs gone)we produce nothing!We have a major issue with education,in that 3 out of 5 kids leaving primary school can't even read,the people who built this country are also being rammed by this country,the rich poor divide is similar to that of the Grand Canyon,and we have entered an illegal war on the order of a thicket in America,anyway at least we have the weather..... oh no we don't even have that either.....give me a min i'll find something to celebrate |
I have not seen any social healthcare work yet, so... maybe the quality will finally improve!
Your taxes go up and lazy people have more money then those who work because of the welfare state, nothing wrong with privatization.
I don't know about the jobs, but there's tons of immigrants in your country, so it can't be that bad! You're still richer per capita then 90% of the world!
Weather...? Give this option to anyone from sunny Antalya, let's see if they will hesitate. Please, set your priorities straight.
Freedom of speech, civil liberties, relative equality, opportunities to name a few! Would you prefer an islamist state? Or something like in Russia where people who criticize Putin mysteriously disappear? 
I find it to be quite ignorant when someone claims that they can't say anything good about Britain. |
Freedom of speech?thanks that'll help pay the bills,civil liberities?give me an example?relative equality?where?how am i equal to everthing here?Islamist state?at least they look after each other,than stab each other in the back,or scratch someones car because they didn't attain it or because one has a newer model of car.Putin's mysterious guests?don't you think the CIA and FBI havent been killing people for years?hello?About Britain?what good things are you talking about?the way the Government turns us over?the Tax rate of %25 of everything you earn?the National insurance %8 of everything you earn?the Tax on everything you buy from a hairbrush to a tin of beans?the way they get us to 'recycle' disposables in the name of 'saving the earth' yet they give us F all for it?you don't live here you don't see it! When you've lived here for 30/40 years then you come and tell me about how life is here!
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 04:47 am |
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Your taxes go up and lazy people have more money then those who work because of the welfare state, nothing wrong with privatization.
I don't know about the jobs, but there's tons of immigrants in your country, so it can't be that bad! You're still richer per capita then 90% of the world!
Weather...? Give this option to anyone from sunny Antalya, let's see if they will hesitate. Please, set your priorities straight.
hmmm lazy people?we work as hard as anyone,welfare state?i refer to my first post on this subject,'nothing wrong with privatisation'?like how?Robbing native people of their jobs?the private companies paying little or if no tax into their country?Their workers?Are they paying into the U.K?
'There are tons of immigrants in the country'
1.They are driving the hourly wage down of native people,so because they work for nothing per hour in their own countries,as one of the strongest nations in the world we should have to drop our wage structure?
2.Are they not a drag on our 'ever lasting' Health system?don't they ever get ill?do they have private insurance?do they pay for medical attention when they come here?Who pays for this treatment 'them'?with their already driven down price per hour?or us paying our taxes 25% and 8% national insurance?
Sunny Antalya seems fine to me,compared to this fiasco,why arent YOU living here?There's always room for one more!
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 05:34 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting mylo: Please give us some!our health service is being privatised as we speak,we are taxed to the hilt,all public services have been privatised from the Thatcher years,all industry is now in third world countries(jobs gone)we produce nothing!We have a major issue with education,in that 3 out of 5 kids leaving primary school can't even read,the people who built this country are also being rammed by this country,the rich poor divide is similar to that of the Grand Canyon,and we have entered an illegal war on the order of a thicket in America,anyway at least we have the weather..... oh no we don't even have that either.....give me a min i'll find something to celebrate |
I have not seen any social healthcare work yet, so... maybe the quality will finally improve!
Your taxes go up and lazy people have more money then those who work because of the welfare state, nothing wrong with privatization.
I don't know about the jobs, but there's tons of immigrants in your country, so it can't be that bad! You're still richer per capita then 90% of the world!
Weather...? Give this option to anyone from sunny Antalya, let's see if they will hesitate. Please, set your priorities straight.
Freedom of speech, civil liberties, relative equality, opportunities to name a few! Would you prefer an islamist state? Or something like in Russia where people who criticize Putin mysteriously disappear?
I find it to be quite ignorant when someone claims that they can't say anything good about Britain. |
I completely agree with this catwoman. People have no idea how good they really have it until they visit some of these other countries. I will take being at the 90% of the world any day.
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 05:58 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It did not take more than a few months for Indonasia and the representatives of Aceh to solve the "Aceh Problem," but it has taken more than 80 years for the Turks to recognize the very existence of the Kurdish people.
Turkey wants to become a member of the EU, but the behavior of Turkey is far from that of civilized Europe. The Turks don't even recognise the Iraqi Constitution and refuse negotiating with any Iraqi delegation with representatives of the Kurdistan Regional Government in it. If you don't negotiate with the constitutionally recognized Kurdistan Regional Government, then how can you expect them to solve your problems?!
Turks are famous for their nationalism. How does the average Turk view the possibility of getting more involved in this war?
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Tea,
Pls,dont assume that we are fools and going to buy it .
İf you 'Americans ' are believeing it to rest your Conscience,we do NOT.
There is NO İraqi Constitution,there is No Iraqi governments too.
They are bunch of traitors serving the enemy,the country which invade them !
And dont give me that nonsense that you were free İraq from Saddam,and you are building new İraq.
Who made Saddam ?!
Who killed him ?
And who destroyed İraq ?
And whose companies are building it ?!!
So talking about being civilized,and asking Türkiye for that is kind of wierd !
You made me feel that you are sitting in a high tower and you dont really know or feel what other suffer there.
Let me tell you a fact tea,you are not making İraq a favour by being there, you are sucking İraq .
Like it or not,you are İNVADERS,and you invaded İraq,and you are still there,so pls dont start talking about being civilized !
A Government under the invaders authority doesnt represent the country,it represnt the enemy.
We've been there too,so we know it.
They wont have a real governemnt until they kick the invaders out of their OWN land.
And untill İraq form a governmet from the İraqian people then all what İraq has is just some Americans puppets .
And as thehandsom said,i too suggest you read some history,Middle East History,and you will understand alot from whats going on there if you want .
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I agree we shouldn't be in Iraq, we should have just sat back and let Saddam continue to kill thousands of innocent people. While their neighboring countries did absolutely NOTHING. We should also allow North Korea and Iran to build their nuclear welfare, why not? As far as Israel goes, let palestine and Hizbullah continue to bomb eachother. Before long we won't have to worry about anything in the Middle East, there won't be anyone left.
Your statements shows the mentality of why the Middle East continues to be in an uproar over religion and land. This will continue with or without the U.S., your history proves it.
As far as sitting on a high tower you mention, this country gives more aid to any other country in the world. Are you that ignorant to think that Americans don't suffer? Canli, news flash "we are all human". We have the poor, homeless, disease, and death. Yet, most Americans I know still give money to help the unfortunate in other countries. I believe we have one of the biggest hearts in the world. So don't think you can play that card with me.
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 12:49 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: I find it to be quite ignorant when someone claims that they can't say anything good about Britain. |
Nothing good?! Did I say that? OK, I hate our politics and parts of our history and cannot defend it, but I love England and I love living here, its beautiful. I can't think of anywhere else I would rather be  .
If I didn't love it so much, I wouldn't criticise the policies of our government so often! 
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 01:17 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1: Quoting CANLI: Quoting teaschip1: It did not take more than a few months for Indonasia and the representatives of Aceh to solve the "Aceh Problem," but it has taken more than 80 years for the Turks to recognize the very existence of the Kurdish people.
Turkey wants to become a member of the EU, but the behavior of Turkey is far from that of civilized Europe. The Turks don't even recognise the Iraqi Constitution and refuse negotiating with any Iraqi delegation with representatives of the Kurdistan Regional Government in it. If you don't negotiate with the constitutionally recognized Kurdistan Regional Government, then how can you expect them to solve your problems?!
Turks are famous for their nationalism. How does the average Turk view the possibility of getting more involved in this war?
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Tea,
Pls,dont assume that we are fools and going to buy it .
İf you 'Americans ' are believeing it to rest your Conscience,we do NOT.
There is NO İraqi Constitution,there is No Iraqi governments too.
They are bunch of traitors serving the enemy,the country which invade them !
And dont give me that nonsense that you were free İraq from Saddam,and you are building new İraq.
Who made Saddam ?!
Who killed him ?
And who destroyed İraq ?
And whose companies are building it ?!!
So talking about being civilized,and asking Türkiye for that is kind of wierd !
You made me feel that you are sitting in a high tower and you dont really know or feel what other suffer there.
Let me tell you a fact tea,you are not making İraq a favour by being there, you are sucking İraq .
Like it or not,you are İNVADERS,and you invaded İraq,and you are still there,so pls dont start talking about being civilized !
A Government under the invaders authority doesnt represent the country,it represnt the enemy.
We've been there too,so we know it.
They wont have a real governemnt until they kick the invaders out of their OWN land.
And untill İraq form a governmet from the İraqian people then all what İraq has is just some Americans puppets .
And as thehandsom said,i too suggest you read some history,Middle East History,and you will understand alot from whats going on there if you want .
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I agree we shouldn't be in Iraq, we should have just sat back and let Saddam continue to kill thousands of innocent people. While their neighboring countries did absolutely NOTHING. We should also allow North Korea and Iran to build their nuclear welfare, why not? As far as Israel goes, let palestine and Hizbullah continue to bomb eachother. Before long we won't have to worry about anything in the Middle East, there won't be anyone left.
Your statements shows the mentality of why the Middle East continues to be in an uproar over religion and land. This will continue with or without the U.S., your history proves it.
As far as sitting on a high tower you mention, this country gives more aid to any other country in the world. Are you that ignorant to think that Americans don't suffer? Canli, news flash "we are all human". We have the poor, homeless, disease, and death. Yet, most Americans I know still give money to help the unfortunate in other countries. I believe we have one of the biggest hearts in the world. So don't think you can play that card with me.
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Tea,i suggest that you try to see things as they REALLY are and again STOP assuming that we are naive!
İm not talking if you suffer İN your country as other people suffer,im talking you are CAUSİNG other people suffer by being in THEİR country and SUCKİNG THEİR resources !
''one of the biggest hearts in the world'' ??!!
Pleaseeeee, do you think ANY country do anything to the other out of having good heart ?!
That is a very NAİVE statment!
İt called political interest dear ,if you told this to even a KİD,he wont buy it .
Ok,let's see,
As for İraq,you were letting Saddam killes his people,and you didnt object,and even you were helping him too in his war,then after war has finished you suddenly discovered what a bad boy he was ?
Or was it better to control the oil mines ,and have a strong present in the area ?!
As for allowing North Korea and Iran to build their nuclear welfare, if you did, it will harm the power balance in the world which YOU have the upper hand in it by countries not from your allies.
So its YOUR benefits AGAİN.
At same time you allow it for Israel because she is YOUR ally !
And as for Israel,palestine and Hizbullah one of them trying to have HİS land back and the other trying to prevent Israel from taking HİS land .
And by whose side are you ?! İsrael
Because AGAİN she is YOUR ally and giving you upper hand in the area .
So pls,dont give me that crap about big hearts !
Quoting teaschip1:
Before long we won't have to worry about anything in the Middle East, there won't be anyone left.
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Btw,Middle East is far more than 200 yrs old,so we were here long before you and we WİLL stay here too with or without USA.
That is the MOST arrogant statment i've ever heard !
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27 Oct 2007 Sat 01:31 pm |
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Quoting teaschip1:
I agree we shouldn't be in Iraq, we should have just sat back and let Saddam continue to kill thousands of innocent people. While their neighboring countries did absolutely NOTHING. |
Teaship this is utter crap, and you know it! The US were quite happy with Saddam's killings for years - in fact they PUT HIM THERE! How many innocent people have been killed since the US and UK went to Iraq? Do you know?
And, strangely enough, I seem to remember that Bush's reason for being in Iraq was originally because of their "weapons of mass distruction" NOT because of Saddam's killings! Incidently, whatever DID happen to those weapons? Did they suddenly just disappear into a puff of smoke? 
Quoting teaschip1: As far as Israel goes, let palestine and Hizbullah continue to bomb eachother. Before long we won't have to worry about anything in the Middle East, there won't be anyone left. |
This is so ignorant. This problem is AGAIN caused by the US and the Allies. The continuing problem in Israel is now caused by American citizens who fund Israelis millions of pounds to build townships further and further into Palestinian territory. These "kind" citizens (mostly religious groups/churches (of all donominations)who are brainwashed into thinking they are doing a good thing) also funded the IRA terrorists and paid for their bombs in the UK. When former President Carter tries to speak out about this, he receives death threats from these "kind citizens"
Quoting teaschip1:
Yet, most Americans I know still give money to help the unfortunate in other countries. I believe we have one of the biggest hearts in the world. So don't think you can play that card with me. |
Again, this is utter crap! You dont have the BIGGEST heart - just one of the BIGGEST COUNTRIES! I don't have figures for all charities, but I do know that PER HEAD, the UK citizens gave double the money that American citizens gave to victims of the tsunami. Maybe the US citizens were too busy giving money to fund terrorism or building work to cause more conflict in Palastine?
With regard to foreign aid, please remember that the US is the richest country in the world. You think foreign aid is about being kind hearted? You are naive, MONEY is POWER Teaschip.
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