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Why should Turkey restrain from entering Irak?
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 12:31 am |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting thehandsom: I still think pkk is in the passive/defensive position.
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Say no more. I suspected where your sympathy was directed and now I know. I will not discuss this matter with anyone who supports the PKK.. |
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How did you come up with that idea from that line?
I am not Kurdish btw.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 12:35 am |
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Being Kurdish is not something to be frowned upon.
Be careful in differentiating terrorists and Kurdish citizens of Turkia...
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 12:36 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: ...yet Turkish intelligence has irrefutable proof that PKK guns are supplied by the USA |
This is a common misconception. I have posted the ACTUAL figures of seized terrorist weapons elsewhere on this site before. Its pretty much from across the board - the majority coming from Eastern Europe. Landmines used by terrorists are mostly of Turkish manufacture 
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 12:36 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Being Kurdish is not something to be frowned upon.
Be careful in differentiating terrorists and Kurdish citizens of Turkia... |
+1000
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 01:02 am |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting AlphaF: ...yet Turkish intelligence has irrefutable proof that PKK guns are supplied by the USA |
This is a common misconception. I have posted the ACTUAL figures of seized terrorist weapons elsewhere on this site before. Its pretty much from across the board - the majority coming from Eastern Europe. Landmines used by terrorists are mostly of Turkish manufacture |
I wonder what else some people posted here without checking the facts first. I would guess that the most emotional reactions are the most suspicious.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 01:11 am |
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Quoting KeithL: Quoting AlphaF: Being Kurdish is not something to be frowned upon.
Be careful in differentiating terrorists and Kurdish citizens of Turkia... |
+1000 |
Yes, that is so true....people who are not familiar with the situation think it's a Kurdish thing, when from what I see, that has very little to do with ethnicity. In fact it seems they suffer the most from this terrorism in their names, so to speak.
I hate war and the destruction it causes. I wish mankind would learn to resolve issues in a constructive manner. What is this, might makes right? Haven't we evolved past this primitive way of solving disputes?
When there is a victor and a looser, there is also enmity. The losers plot for the next time when maybe they will win. The cycle continues....
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 01:12 am |
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Quoting KeithL: Rather than take the current popular post in the forum, in a new direction, I have started this one so the Armenian issue is not confused with the PKK issue.
How can the world expect Turkey to act with restraint against the PKK? This has been going on for over 30 years! Did the US use restraint when attacking Irak over 9/11? Did US ally, Israel use restraint went it leveled Beirut again over one single soldier? The problem with American diplomacy is its incredible hypocracy applied for itself and its allies. |
never in the history of mankind American allies ended up well!American govermant acts itself and only for its interests!Look at former Yugoslavia!
Poland for supporting Americans-although the nation is against- the goverment still follows has nothing to gain..only to lose!We still have to apply for visas!what a gratefulness!
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 01:13 am |
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Quoting AlphaF: Being Kurdish is not something to be frowned upon. |
I would never do that..You have my word..
Quoting AlphaF:
Be careful in differentiating terrorists and Kurdish citizens of Turkia.. |
And when I was talking about 'making mistakes about fighting the problem in the southeast' is something like what you are saying in the second quote.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 01:58 am |
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Quoting thehandsom: I still think pkk is in the passive/defensive position. |
And who killed so many people, in these days? Is there any other terrorist group that we don't know?
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 04:32 am |
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Quoting Serdar07: Quoting teaschip1: Quoting Serdar07: Quoting KeithL: And your people have a right to defend themselves. I'm not disagreeing with you serdar. |
Then Good Friend Keithl...
I am in the region and know it well as the Turkish Army know that very well... PKK terrorist in a mountain called ( Kandil) shared by three countries Iraq, Turkey and Iran,, But the Turkish Army now shelling civils in villages which are 300 KM away from that mountain. So the presure now not on the thieves but on the innocent people. Wish you could belive me and best wishes to all!! |
I hope you can stay safe.. |
Thank you dear for your nice feelings and good wish! |
Please be safe and take care of your family too. It's a difficult time.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 10:29 am |
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It is very unfortunate that totally innocent civilians suffer in a fight with terrorists. This is the nature of terrorizm where terrorists cohabit with civilians: it sometimes becomes hard to make a clear distinction between the two. Turkish Army, if they are bombing at all, aim at very specific targets. Even Serdaro knows KANDIL MOUNTAIN houses the terrorists, and that is where the shells fall.
No terrorist group can forever hide under skirts of innocent civilians and hope to survive.
What is unfortunate is while everybody knows where the terrorist are, after scores of bombings in Turkey killing many civilians, and after Turkia declares that- in the absence of cooperation fron USA or Iraqi Government - a unilateral solution will be found to destroy the terrorists, at whatever the cost...no local authorities, neither Iraqi government nor the local bandits, appear interested to cooperate in solutions that woukd endanger less civilian lives. THAT SOLUTION CAN NOT BE "LET TERRORISTS LIVE", PKK has to go...
People here in this group can perhaps now understand why the Ottoman Empire had to force the non-terrorist Armenian citizens to leave the problem area, when rebel Armenians donned French Army uniforms/weapons and took to mountains, against their own country.
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