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Why should Turkey restrain from entering Irak?
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:26 pm |
Quoting KeithL: As I said teaship, the PKK had a cease fire with turkey for several years. Since the US invasion of Irak, their suicide bombings in turkey have begun again. |
Can't you imagine this new declartion and new situation is a part of the election game in USA between the Republican and Democrates. Oh please read the events very clearly and rember why Clinton lost the last game!!!!
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:28 pm |
Turkey's refusal to open its land for invasion of Iraq one of the most honorable act I have ever seen from Turkey.
Money? money for blood of Iraqies? Thank you!
About invading northern Iraq: I absolutely disagree with that idea. Turkey did it in past several times. PKK is still PKK. And everybody knows that the terror is not going to finish with that operation. Those operations proved to be not successful. Even the prime minister told several months ago there is no need for that.
The timing is quite interesting, however. 2/3 of American supplies are coming from Turkey through northern Iraq. That operation will hamper those supply roots. It might be Turkey's response to USA's armenian decision.
And Turkey and Iran have always been spectical about the Kurds. And I think there will be an Kerkuk referendum about in the near future.
Turkey has been warning Kurds for a long time about their treatment of Turkomans.
I dont think Americans and Turks will be fighting in northern Iraq. I doubt that kurdish pehmerges will try to stop Turkey either, if it happens.
But one thing for sure that it wont finish PKK and it may even force PKK to start active fighting again.
So the result might be more bloodshed.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 08:30 pm |
Again dear Kethil!
Don't forget your words about starting this thread!Arminian+Kurds+PKK+North of Iraq= ????
what is this time can you think about clearly???
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 09:57 pm |
So how many more bombs need to be exploded? If not going after the PKK, then what is the answer? These attacks are not limited to tourist spots. The HSBC Bank, the british consulate, the shopping mall in Ankara. They are doing more than frightening tourists in resort areas.
For now, all the army wants to do is "hot pursuit" after an attack.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 10:02 pm |
Quoting KeithL: So how many more bombs need to be exploded? If not going after the PKK, then what is the answer? These attacks are not limited to tourist spots. The HSBC Bank, the british consulate, the shopping mall in Ankara. They are doing more than frightening tourists in resort areas.
For now, all the army wants to do is "hot pursuit" after an attack. |
I do agree Turkey has a right to defend themselves. But I just am a little concerned if they decide to go into Iraq right now.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 10:40 pm |
Quoting KeithL: So how many more bombs need to be exploded? If not going after the PKK, then what is the answer? These attacks are not limited to tourist spots. The HSBC Bank, the british consulate, the shopping mall in Ankara. They are doing more than frightening tourists in resort areas.
For now, all the army wants to do is "hot pursuit" after an attack. |
HSBC and British consulate bombings were Alqaida jobs.
And their response to Iraq occupation.
I think, Ankara bomber belonged to a left wing group.
They had nothing to do with PKK.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 11:06 pm |
and there is credible evidence that they are linked.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 11:38 pm |
Quoting KeithL: and there is credible evidence that they are linked. |
Dear KeithL,
Alkaide is islamist and PKK is marksist. They kind of hate each other. They will never coorporate.
Ankara bombing can be related, because some turkish left coorporated with PKK in the past. But I am still not sure to be honest.
I still think pkk is in the passive/defensive position.
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 11:52 pm |
Quoting thehandsom: I still think pkk is in the passive/defensive position.
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Say no more. I suspected where your sympathy was directed and now I know. I will not discuss this matter with anyone who supports the PKK..
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18 Oct 2007 Thu 11:54 pm |
to all participants in the discussion TUrkia - Iraq - PKK - USA..
1. PKK is a terrorist organisation, hitting Turkia from PKK bases in Northern Iraq. Turkia has had enough of them.
2. USA is run by conceited politicians, who do not hesitate singing disapproval to all forms of terrorism, and pledge allegiance to Turkia in a fight where terrorism appears to hurt Turkish sovereignity...yet Turkish intelligence has irrefutable proof that PKK guns are supplied by the USA (my personal opinion is that tactics used by terrorists are also supplied by either American or British staff officers) - if not directly, through mafiatic private armies run by private US firms. (one interesting point for friends in the group, can be checking who owns companies like BLACKWATER, info is available in the net)
3. The ideal solution would be for Iraq Army (as the legal sovereign power in the area)or the US ARMY (as the democracy singing bandits in power) to stop and destroy the terrorists within Iraq boundaries.. This does not seem to happen: Mainly because Iraq is temporarly incapable, and US government is run by a bunch of crooks.
Under the conditions I expect Turkia will intervene, not in hostility to a brother neighbour, but to clear the terrorist elements within reach of Turkish border. The operation will be limited and will in no way relieve Americans from the mess they got themselves into in Southern Iraq.
Anyone who wants to fight against Turkia, to protect PKK terrorism, will be more than welcome to join forces agaoinst this thoruoghly justified intervention..We shall see whether a permission from USA is required for this operation or not, when the right time comes.
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19 Oct 2007 Fri 12:31 am |
Quoting KeithL: Quoting thehandsom: I still think pkk is in the passive/defensive position.
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Say no more. I suspected where your sympathy was directed and now I know. I will not discuss this matter with anyone who supports the PKK.. |
Vow
How did you come up with that idea from that line?
I am not Kurdish btw.
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