Quoting catwoman:

that is YOUR opinion canim!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting geniuda:

Quoting thehandsom:

"Çiğ ve görgüsüz olmak"
This is a turkish phrase..
Çiğ can be translated as raw ,coarse, crass, crude, dirty, filthy, foul, gross, indecent, inelegant, low, mean, nasty, obscene, pornographic, rank, rough, rude, smutty, uncouth, unrefined, unscrupulous (according to thesaurus.reference.com)
My pick will be filthy,gross,nasty, obscene, rude

görgüsüz is an adjective: (meaning abrupt, bad-mannered,blunt, boorish, coarse, curt, discourteous, gross, gruff, ill-mannered, impolite, inconsiderate, insulting, mannerless, uncivilized, uncouth, uncultured, unfriendly, ungentlemanly, unmannerly, unpolished, unrefined, vulgar) according to thesaurus.reference.com.
I would personally pick uncivilized, uncouth, uncultured, unrefined and vulgar for it
well
"Çiğ ve görgüsüz olmak" means can be translated as 'being rude and vulgar"

a pause here
and a little history about one of the sultans 'genc osman'
The date is 20 May 1622, this sultan was taken by the janissaries from topkapi palace on a horse and through Beyazıt-Laleli-Aksaray-Davutpaşa (places in istanbul) he was brought to yedikule. But during the journey the sultan went through all kind of TREATMENT by the janissaries on the journey ie squuezing his butts , pinching his thighs etc.
And the treatment continued and ended up and of the night in one of the bottom cells in the marble tower ( which is at the sea side of) yedikule dungeon. ( there were many happy janissaries according to rumors)

another pause here.
it is not that often I am really ashhamed of my country man:
They might be poor..I love them.
They might be not well educated...I love them as they are.
They may not know how to eat with knives and forks. I love them and I would share bread with them at any time..
They are beautiful people, so as My country.
But when I see rude and vulgar people and if they are from my beautiful country.
I really feel ASHAMED of them.

What is history part of this writing got to do with it then?
I donno..I just thought some people need treatment..that historic incident came into my mind. .

Girleegirl,
you are a lady..we all love you..
ignore people who need a real treatment..

ps..I am not giving any name here..whoever thinks the shoe fits, should wear it..

Quoting Deli_kizin:

It sure is canım


I just thought of some new names for you and the handsome in case you ever feel like getting deleted and then come back


handwoman and thecatsom

Quoting peace train:

If people want to research a subject as a result of a discussion, then post the fruits of their research, I don't see anything negative in that. They are being generous by sharing. Of course not everyone will be interested so the choice is: click or pass.

Quoting catwoman:

Adonis, do you need a separate warning, or will you learn as adonis2?