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What is wrong with Muslims?
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 03:52 am |
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Quoting catwoman:
All I can say is that truth hurts.. apparently. There's no bashing here whatsoever, just pointing out some problems. |
İ would agree with you in just TWO cases,
That İF we cant read,or İF we read and cant understand !
İm afraid its not the case here
We can both read and am afraid we ALSO can understand!
Look cat,if i want to reply to such thread,i can open up another one under the same title almost only changing the word from Muslims to Christians,'What is wrong with Christians?! and can fill it with so many posts of that kind like yours and providing the links too
You know it and i know it
And at the end i can also say same few words as yours,that truth hurts
But we went through this before,and actually i wont go AGAİN through it and repeat it all over again
So be my guest,you do it,have it all the way you want it,im not in !
Just a bit of advice,You can throw the rock only if you have no sins ...right ?!
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 04:24 am |
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Go ahead, canli, start a post "What is wrong with Christians?", let's talk about it. Give links and data that show problems with christians and we will also talk about them. You know however, that problems with christians do not make problems with muslims any less bad. 
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 09:38 am |
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Quoting CANLI:
Have you watched 'My big fat greek wedding'?
Why is her grandmother wearing a veil 'covering her hair' ?!
Maybe she was depressed in some Muslim country which has the Muslim majority in it !
İf you consider US or Greece such !
İf she was forced to wear it,so our Christian people are forced too !
Got it now?! |
It is not a veil discussion, besides, in Greece nobody forces anyone to wear a veil, do they? I meant a kind of assimilation to the rules of majority. You don't have huge Christian/Atheist groups migrating to Muslim countries and demanding they're free to practice whatever customs they have. To my knowledge, even going on holiday trips, westerners are taught how to behave and what rules to obey while in Muslim countries.
Quote: And btw,just a bit of info,in many Muslim's countries,specially in the middle east,they weren't Christians before being Muslims,they were either Kafir 'worship statues with many gods' or believing in İbraham religion 'Muslims believeing only in ALLAH'
But the majority were Kafir,then became Muslims thats why the number of christians in those countries are small,and sometimes none
But of course you can understand it the way you like it same like the Christian covered women ! |
Well, before Christianity, there were pagans all around Europe, weren't there? The European Muslims are immigrants from the East. I was just pointing out to the fact that migration in the opposite direction takes place rarely. Those who move are usually specialists hired by big companies, you don't get hundreds of Westerners moving to Saudi Arabia with their families and claiming social benefits as well as free access to alcohol, pork and cleavage.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 09:38 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Go ahead, canli, start a post "What is wrong with Christians?", let's talk about it. Give links and data that show problems with christians and we will also talk about them. You know however, that problems with christians do not make problems with muslims any less bad. |
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 11:13 am |
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I think these articles will be relevant here:
Fear of Islam: Britain's new disease
Muslims feel like 'Jews of Europe'
And this:
Sharia law 'coming to Britain'
Sharia could play a role in some parts of the legal system, the most senior judge in England and Wales said today.
The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, ruled out the possibility of sharia courts sitting in this country or deciding penalties.
Sharia, a set of principles governing the way many Muslims believe one should live one's life, suffered from "widespread misunderstanding" by the rest of the world, he added.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:13 pm |
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Quoting thehandsom: I think these articles will be relevant here:
Fear of Islam: Britain's new disease
Muslims feel like 'Jews of Europe'
And this:
Sharia law 'coming to Britain'
Sharia could play a role in some parts of the legal system, the most senior judge in England and Wales said today.
The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers, ruled out the possibility of sharia courts sitting in this country or deciding penalties.
Sharia, a set of principles governing the way many Muslims believe one should live one's life, suffered from "widespread misunderstanding" by the rest of the world, he added. |
Fear of Islam - exactly what my post was referring to! Only people in Britian will know what we mean. And the judge? No Comment 
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 01:18 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Quoting catwoman: Go ahead, canli, start a post "What is wrong with Christians?", let's talk about it. Give links and data that show problems with christians and we will also talk about them. You know however, that problems with christians do not make problems with muslims any less bad. |
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No dear,i wont
There is no point 
As i said we've been through this before,we've been talking and debating at almost same subjects too
So,if we had achieved anything before,then there would be no need to rebeat ourselves again would it ?
And if we didnt achieve anything,then also there is no point in opening same subjects again and even talk about them in same patterns 'that Muslims,İslam is bad and you 'none Muslims' want to teach us how to be good Muslims !' unless we like to hear our own voices over and over again
İ personally dont like to do that
And also as i told armegon in another thread before before,i dont repeat myself,so i wont open a repetitive thread maybe different in title but same in content !
So as i said,be my guest and have it your way,and we have it ours too!
Muslims are bad?...ok we are bad
İslam is sucks?...ok İslam is sucks...
Want us to disappear ?
NO we wont !
We are Muslims,we will be Muslims we wont be neither Christians ,Jewish,none believers...ect
We like OUR religion the way it is,we wont REFORM it the way YOU ''none Muslims' like
And CERTAİNLY we wont be taught about OUR religion and the way to practice it from none Muslims !
We will always be as we are ...Muslims
And guess what, we wont go anywhere either,we will always be here too same as you 'None Muslims' do
So ,dont you think its about time that we learn to live together the way we both are because that is what WAS and what İS and what WİLL going to be also maybe you 'None Muslims' learn to accept it even if you hate it ?!
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 07:31 pm |
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Was the purpose of this thread to bring people together or pull people apart? Or was it just to create some "excitement"?
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 07:33 pm |
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if i had a magic power, i'd ban all the religions. no war, no religion, have sex. this is my motto. regards.
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 08:05 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting Daydreamer: Quoting catwoman: Go ahead, canli, start a post "What is wrong with Christians?", let's talk about it. Give links and data that show problems with christians and we will also talk about them. You know however, that problems with christians do not make problems with muslims any less bad. |
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No dear,i wont
There is no point
As i said we've been through this before,we've been talking and debating at almost same subjects too
So,if we had achieved anything before,then there would be no need to rebeat ourselves again would it ?
And if we didnt achieve anything,then also there is no point in opening same subjects again and even talk about them in same patterns 'that Muslims,İslam is bad and you 'none Muslims' want to teach us how to be good Muslims !' unless we like to hear our own voices over and over again
İ personally dont like to do that
And also as i told armegon in another thread before before,i dont repeat myself,so i wont open a repetitive thread maybe different in title but same in content !
So as i said,be my guest and have it your way,and we have it ours too!
Muslims are bad?...ok we are bad
İslam is sucks?...ok İslam is sucks...
Want us to disappear ?
NO we wont !
We are Muslims,we will be Muslims we wont be neither Christians ,Jewish,none believers...ect
We like OUR religion the way it is,we wont REFORM it the way YOU ''none Muslims' like
And CERTAİNLY we wont be taught about OUR religion and the way to practice it from none Muslims !
We will always be as we are ...Muslims
And guess what, we wont go anywhere either,we will always be here too same as you 'None Muslims' do
So ,dont you think its about time that we learn to live together the way we both are because that is what WAS and what İS and what WİLL going to be also maybe you 'None Muslims' learn to accept it even if you hate it ?! |
Don't get so upset and take things so personally! If thousands, no sorry millions of Christians came to your country and expect you to build churches, and make sure they had Christianity taught in schoolos, expected your country to make changes to accomodate them, and would not integrate you would understand better I am sure. No one is denegrading all Muslims so please dont take it like that.
You say we should learn to live together, I agree, then why do we have a city in England, Leicester, where now the balance has swung and white Britons are the minority and integration has not happened. Do we now have to integrate with the Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs? There are whole areas of most big cities where you would think you are in a different country.
We don't hate it, most British people tolerate it, but we just would like them to accept our way of life a little more and not expect us to bow down to them. If they want to live in Britain then accept us!!!!!!!
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05 Jul 2008 Sat 08:06 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: Was the purpose of this thread to bring people together or pull people apart? Or was it just to create some "excitement"?
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Keith, I see that you disagree with this thread, but maybe the 'purpose' was neither of those? Merely to discuss an issue that is causing lots of problems these days. Why is it that people cannot honestly have a conversation about this topic? There are some obvious problems with Islam, yet, muslim violence seems to have succeeded in putting everybody's heads in the sand and making us pretend like there's no problem.
Once again, this thread is not about or against muslims in general, it is about muslim violence and extremism. Since we talk about everything, we should also be able to talk about this.
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