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What is wrong with Muslims?
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80.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 06:42 pm

and here is another one discrediting your source...

'Poisonous and dangerousThe constant regurgitation by the media of Muslim-baiting 'research' by right-wing think tanks misleads the public and is driven by a neocon political agenda'
Poisonous and dangerous

"This week's forensic exposure by the BBC programme Newsnight of the apparent fabrication of evidence underpinning an inflammatory report into British Muslims by the Tory-linked think tank Policy Exchange has revealed the soft underbelly of what has become an increasingly poisonous and dangerous campaign."

If what your article were true, people like Tariq Ali and his family would have been dead long long ago...but they are not, in fact they have reproduced...

Quoting teaschip:

Here is another article that again raises the question regarding religous freedom for Muslims..I don't understand why converting to another religion has a terrible impact. In my opinion converts are usually the ones who are most dedicated to their new found religon.

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family



What is the purpose of all this Muslim baiting? Don't we have enough to deal with without this?

81.       @Tommy@
11 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 06:52 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Here is another article that again raises the question regarding religous freedom for Muslims..I don't understand why converting to another religion has a terrible impact. In my opinion converts are usually the ones who are most dedicated to their new found religon.

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family



Your source is not update.

82.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 07:00 pm

Quoting alameda:

and here is another one discrediting your source...

'Poisonous and dangerousThe constant regurgitation by the media of Muslim-baiting 'research' by right-wing think tanks misleads the public and is driven by a neocon political agenda'
Poisonous and dangerous

"This week's forensic exposure by the BBC programme Newsnight of the apparent fabrication of evidence underpinning an inflammatory report into British Muslims by the Tory-linked think tank Policy Exchange has revealed the soft underbelly of what has become an increasingly poisonous and dangerous campaign."

If what your article were true, people like Tariq Ali and his family would have been dead long long ago...but they are not, in fact they have reproduced...

Quoting teaschip:

Here is another article that again raises the question regarding religous freedom for Muslims..I don't understand why converting to another religion has a terrible impact. In my opinion converts are usually the ones who are most dedicated to their new found religon.

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family



What is the purpose of all this Muslim baiting? Don't we have enough to deal with without this?


Alameda we can go back and forth but I assure you I could simply find hundreds of stories like the article I just posted. You ask about what the purpose of all this Muslim baiting, but you have no problem contributing to the topic either. My point was questioning Muslims religous freedoms, why is this so contraversy? I have no problem discussing premartial counseling the Catholic Church requires for a couple who aren't both Catholic.. If you want to talk about the Crusaides I'm also game.

I would like to hear from Muslims who have converted and how and what the perception is from their community and families.

Bye the way, your post in no way discredits the source "Time Online" and "News Night is more credible? lol And what has this to do with relgious freedom? So are you saying it's not true?

83.       teaschip
3870 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 07:04 pm

Quoting @Tommy@:

Quoting teaschip:

Here is another article that again raises the question regarding religous freedom for Muslims..I don't understand why converting to another religion has a terrible impact. In my opinion converts are usually the ones who are most dedicated to their new found religon.

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family



Your source is not update.



So please tell me then since you have the inside story? You must be a relative of Mr Hussein. Why is there such a denial?

84.       zhang ziyi
205 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 07:09 pm

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85.       alameda
3499 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 08:07 pm

Quoting teaschip:

Quoting alameda:

and here is another one discrediting your source...

'Poisonous and dangerousThe constant regurgitation by the media of Muslim-baiting 'research' by right-wing think tanks misleads the public and is driven by a neocon political agenda'
Poisonous and dangerous

"This week's forensic exposure by the BBC programme Newsnight of the apparent fabrication of evidence underpinning an inflammatory report into British Muslims by the Tory-linked think tank Policy Exchange has revealed the soft underbelly of what has become an increasingly poisonous and dangerous campaign."

If what your article were true, people like Tariq Ali and his family would have been dead long long ago...but they are not, in fact they have reproduced...

Quoting teaschip:

Here is another article that again raises the question regarding religous freedom for Muslims..I don't understand why converting to another religion has a terrible impact. In my opinion converts are usually the ones who are most dedicated to their new found religon.

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family



What is the purpose of all this Muslim baiting? Don't we have enough to deal with without this?


Alameda we can go back and forth but I assure you I could simply find hundreds of stories like the article I just posted. You ask about what the purpose of all this Muslim baiting, but you have no problem contributing to the topic either. My point was questioning Muslims religous freedoms, why is this so contraversy? I have no problem discussing premartial counseling the Catholic Church requires for a couple who aren't both Catholic.. If you want to talk about the Crusaides I'm also game.

I would like to hear from Muslims who have converted and how and what the perception is from their community and families.

Bye the way, your post in no way discredits the source "Time Online" and "News Night is more credible? lol And what has this to do with relgious freedom? So are you saying it's not true?



Yes teaschip, I am saying it's not true. Finding things to quote is irrelevant, particularly when they are from think tanks who have an agenda to promote chaos and disharmony.

Regarding Catholics who disagree with the Pope, they are in fact not Catholics. In order to actually be a Catholic, you have to believe in what the Pope says. If you don't agree, you are not Catholic.

"Members must accept the church as having the fullness of revelation, and according to Roman Catholic catechism is the only Christian body that is "holy, universal and apostolic"

86.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 07 Jul 2008 Mon 08:25 pm

Quoting alameda:


Yes teaschip, I am saying it's not true. Finding things to quote is irrelevant, particularly when they are from think tanks who have an agenda to promote chaos and disharmony.


You have always disregarded anyone who happens to post something that is against what you believe but you fail to tell us what makes your sources more reputable. So come alameda, do tell...what makes you sources definitive?

87.       alameda
3499 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 02:00 am

Quoting girleegirl:

You have always disregarded anyone who happens to post something that is against what you believe but you fail to tell us what makes your sources more reputable. So come alameda, do tell...what makes you sources definitive?



You know, there really is no substitute for experience. It teaches a great deal.

88.       HomeSick
137 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:23 am

One must know the answer to the question "Who is a muslim?", before making comments about the followers of Islam.To do that, you do not go through wiki or websites and post some parts of articles as a source, you go to real source (Quran, Bible, etc) and read it. The same idea/approach is also true for Christians, Jews, etc.

A true Muslim, Christian, Jew, etc has nothing to do with violance and so the concept of hate.

It is always the people using religion by deception for their evil as an excuse. Nothing less nothing more.

89.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:29 am

Al birini vur otekine

After reading the whole posts..

90.       HomeSick
137 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:42 am

"Al birini vur otekine" does not solve the problem. In the frame of religions, the main problem is people do not read, but love to listen and being told what is written

I encounter this problem many times. They say something that is 100% against the scripture and I ask where did you learn that? The usual answer is from my father, grandfather, etc.. When I underline the fact that his/her father, grandfather is wrong, then the argument becomes "How do you know?!!", answer is simple, because I read canim hehe

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