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What is wrong with Muslims?
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90.       HomeSick
137 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 03:42 am

"Al birini vur otekine" does not solve the problem. In the frame of religions, the main problem is people do not read, but love to listen and being told what is written

I encounter this problem many times. They say something that is 100% against the scripture and I ask where did you learn that? The usual answer is from my father, grandfather, etc.. When I underline the fact that his/her father, grandfather is wrong, then the argument becomes "How do you know?!!", answer is simple, because I read canim hehe

91.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 04:04 am

Catwoman is right as always.
Muslims are bad. Turks are bad.
Catwoman is always right.
She is a Muslim.
She is a Turk.
She knows everything.
She is the saint admin.
If you defence your ideas, you ll be warned.
She is the cat
She is the god of romance
She is Jennifer Lopez
She is Paris Hilton
She is Recep tayyip erdogan

To be the best like her : Try to do these ones.

1)Find a topic about any country / religion.
-You can find nazi supporters.
-You can find american supporters and the one's that says -"It's good we kill children there, There wont be any cihad soldier after years "
-You can find terrorist that are saying they fcked turkish army. Just change the first post against turkish army.

-Ok then, to be smart like her, choose the one that is wrong and muslim / turkish people said. Forget about americans / nazis.

Then you're ready to attack.
Copy and Paste it. Create a topic.
Now you're a catwoman. But you can never be a totally catwoman.

Not finished !
To be a really catwoman :
Quote this post
reply it as ;

- " I did not mean it, I love turks , I love muslims, I m also married with a turkish guy(!). " / " Here is a off topic boy, here we can talk about anything. Especially the ones that insults Turks / Muslims. You know we respect and love you that's why we insult. "

OR
- if you cant find an answer. Dont reply or delete the post

Now you're a Catwoman.

The topic would be : "A stupid guy" / "a brainless" / "a silly post "

For catwoman : " What is wrong with Muslims?"

"muslims" = All the muslims that is your neighbour,5 years old children, also me.

Wondering if the x one is the guy that posted that, or the one quoted that...
x=up 2 u.

PS : Also curious about the adulatories and the lawyers and the children that will reply instead of her without knowing what my post is really about and the past of her.

92.       girleegirl
5065 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 04:21 am

Quoting uYkuSuz:

Catwoman is right as always.


Well now that you have settled it all I guess everyone can quit arguing!

93.       HomeSick
137 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 04:42 am

Uykusuz you are really confused man
Go and get some sleep hehe

94.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 04:58 am

Quoting HomeSick:

"Al birini vur otekine" does not solve the problem. In the frame of religions, the main problem is people do not read, but love to listen and being told what is written

I encounter this problem many times. They say something that is 100% against the scripture and I ask where did you learn that? The usual answer is from my father, grandfather, etc.. When I underline the fact that his/her father, grandfather is wrong, then the argument becomes "How do you know?!!", answer is simple, because I read canim hehe



This is interesting thank you. When you read, I presume you mean the scripture itself. Even the interpretation can differ at times. For instance Tafsir relating to the Qur'an. I read about Mohammed Asad and he is viewed by many as giving very accurate translation because of his command of the Arabic used in the Qur'an.

He lived for some time with a group of Bedouin whose Arabic most closely resembled that used in the Qur'an. He gives very good and lengthy detail for his reasons for chosing to go down a certain path with meanings of some words.

In the end it's down to personal preference. I'm reminded here of something somebody once said to me, which made me laugh to myself. I received an email from a revert who said he preferred the Ali Yusuf (I hope this is correct, it's late and I haven't time to check) translation of the Qur'an best because the style reminded him of the King James version of the Bible.

As for other sources of knowledge, it is tricky. The boundaries between faith and culture can become fuzzy and even invisible to those who have lived their faith from birth. Some followers of any faith don't always have access to any source but their families and this can go on for generations. Misconceptions can accrue unintentionally.

Nowadays where do people go to first when they want to know something? Increasingly, to the WWW and , as we know, it is not without it's pitfalls by a long shot. Last year a friend of mine emailed the names of three sites, purporting to contain authoritative information on the belief system of Islam . . . the type of site someone would visit if they wanted to learn. It had been discovered that none of these sites was authentic, not established by Muslims, but in fact by people who wanted to spread misinformation about Islam.

I'm sure these aren't the only 3 sites and I'm sure Islam is not the only faith affected. I use it as an example because it's the experience I have.

95.       peacetrain
1905 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:05 am

Quoting HomeSick:

Uykusuz you are really confused man
Go and get some sleep hehe



I think too much sleep has already been had, he's been dormant for 18 months. Yykusuz a.k.a. Rip Van Winkle

96.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:11 am

Quoting HomeSick:

Uykusuz you are really confused man
Go and get some sleep hehe


Adulatory Number 1.

97.       uYkuSuz
614 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:11 am

Quoting peacetrain:

Quoting HomeSick:

Uykusuz you are really confused man
Go and get some sleep hehe



I think too much sleep has already been had, he's been dormant for 18 months. Yykusuz a.k.a. Rip Van Winkle


Adulatory Number 2.

98.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:26 am

Quoting Rocco Siffredi:

by the way you identify yourself as an atheist,come on madam daydreamer, don't be attached yourself on the things with full of emptiness such as atheism etc... just think about it please. keep in mind, i really don't any problem with you all, but it's very ridiculous for me to read your baseless posts about religions, cultures, terrorism, beliefs, dudus etc. i hope you'll improve yourself for writing fully sophisticated posts henceforth. take care, grazie.


Rocco lecturing us about morality?

lol

99.       catwoman
8933 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:38 am

Quoting girleegirl:

Quoting uYkuSuz:

Catwoman is right as always.


Well now that you have settled it all I guess everyone can quit arguing!


lol

100.       HomeSick
137 posts
 08 Jul 2008 Tue 05:58 am

Quoting peacetrain:

This is interesting thank you. When you read, I presume you mean the scripture itself. Even the interpretation can differ at times. For instance Tafsir relating to the Qur'an. I read about Mohammed Asad and he is viewed by many as giving very accurate translation because of his command of the Arabic used in the Qur'an.

He lived for some time with a group of Bedouin whose Arabic most closely resembled that used in the Qur'an. He gives very good and lengthy detail for his reasons for chosing to go down a certain path with meanings of some words.



That is exactly what I meant, I for instance myself read different translations, see different interpretations. The problem is most of the words have multiple meanings and if the one who translates them is not carefull enough, the meaning changes.

Quote:


In the end it's down to personal preference. I'm reminded here of something somebody once said to me, which made me laugh to myself. I received an email from a revert who said he preferred the Ali Yusuf (I hope this is correct, it's late and I haven't time to check) translation of the Qur'an best because the style reminded him of the King James version of the Bible.



Yusuf Ali is one of the best, I recommended his translation many times to friends.

Quote:


As for other sources of knowledge, it is tricky. The boundaries between faith and culture can become fuzzy and even invisible to those who have lived their faith from birth. Some followers of any faith don't always have access to any source but their families and this can go on for generations. Misconceptions can accrue unintentionally.

Nowadays where do people go to first when they want to know something? Increasingly, to the WWW and , as we know, it is not without it's pitfalls by a long shot. Last year a friend of mine emailed the names of three sites, purporting to contain authoritative information on the belief system of Islam . . . the type of site someone would visit if they wanted to learn. It had been discovered that none of these sites was authentic, not established by Muslims, but in fact by people who wanted to spread misinformation about Islam.

I'm sure these aren't the only 3 sites and I'm sure Islam is not the only faith affected. I use it as an example because it's the experience I have.



Yes, that is the problem. People let culture effect their beleifs even they contradict with the scripture. But again I beleive that happens because we as people do not like reading that much

For instance, one little example, ask around , who is the first muslim ? Usual answer is our beloved prophet Muhammed (puh), but the correct answer is the prophet Abraham (puh) according to the scripture.

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