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What is wrong with christians?
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 02:29 pm |
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Quoting uYkuSuz: Quoting catwoman: christianity is not perfect at all, but it's better then islam for sure. Quoting alameda:
The only thing that worries me is that you are not this thoughtful when it comes to islam...  |
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Cause of you're that thoughtful and that perfect ( christianity is better than islam ), you're trying to insult islam by saying non-sense explanations and finding fools and quoting them ?
What you're doing know is a shame. as bad as racism. Plus as you're an admin you should be objective. You're in turkishclass you know that most of the Turks are muslim and as an admin you're saying that Christianity is better than islam. That's why many users and me are away from here. Thanx God I know that all the christians are not like you.. |
well, if you don't like islam religion and think that christianity is better than islam, why have you married to a turkish man? i know that turkish people in turchia are generally muslim and they live their own religion (they are generally religious people i mean). that's why, why don't you show respect your husband's religion? again, why have you married to him (the admin)? for accumulating interest from something or any other reason? just tell us please.
i really don't understand how that admin still put up with a contradictory and undecisive woman (wife) like you. doesn't he read your hatred posts and pukings in this site? how does he let you make shits to his religion and national identity? very interessante really. you have to be grateful to your husband for marrying you, open this website for you and let you make shits whatever/whenever you want in here.
i think you should see a doctor or a psychiatrist to diagnose what the problem is. it's my recommendation to you. if i were your husband, i'd eject you from my life as soon as possible.
i'm thanking to the Lord for not having such a contradictory wife. hallelujah!
if you want respect, show respect at first. please let the people live their own life and religion.
ps: i'm a catholic but not a fanatic one, and i'm satisfied with my religion, what happened? (maybe you wonder my religion)
ps 2: you remind me a song = "R.E.M - losing my religion". grazie.
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 02:40 pm |
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Quoting @Tommy@: Quoting Rocco Siffredi:
ps: i am with you Tommy, go on. grazie. |
Thank you bro, I knew I could count on you  |
Rocco/Tommy (or even Rock-on-Tommy  )
Don't you mean,
"thank you to me for inventing my new name and posting to myself" 
You are a such a joker!!!!!
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 10:16 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: If I remember correctly, Christians cannot choose rules to follow - disobeying commandments is a sin, you cannot pick out what you want. If you break a rule, you sin and you will be judged for it after death. The idea is that it is God who will judge not your contemporaries. There's a quote which goes more or less 'Don't judge and you won't be judged' that refers to being judged by people. Catholics have a different approach, they use the power Jesus gave to St Peter when he said that he was to build his church on Earth and to pardon sins of people (Something like: In heaven I will pardon the sins you will pardon, and not pardon those you won't). Thus priests in Catholicism have the power to pardon sins. |
Ummmm.....I guess the Inquisition followed in these lines?
Inquisition
Rather, I think they would still be doing this if the general populace had not become so disgusted in the whole thing. If they had the power, do you think they wouldn't do this again?
Witch Trials
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 10:47 pm |
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 10:48 pm |
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Quoting zhang ziyi: Quoting alameda:
Ummmm.....I guess the Inquisition followed in these lines?
Inquisition
Rather, I think they would still be doing this if the general populace had not become so disgusted in the whole thing. If they had the power, do you think they wouldn't do this again?
Witch Trials |
I think you have an agenda here therefore your sources are not valid. |
Historic fact is not my invention.
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10 Jul 2008 Thu 10:59 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: If I remember correctly, Christians cannot choose rules to follow - disobeying commandments is a sin, you cannot pick out what you want. If you break a rule, you sin and you will be judged for it after death. The idea is that it is God who will judge not your contemporaries. There's a quote which goes more or less 'Don't judge and you won't be judged' that refers to being judged by people. Catholics have a different approach, they use the power Jesus gave to St Peter when he said that he was to build his church on Earth and to pardon sins of people (Something like: In heaven I will pardon the sins you will pardon, and not pardon those you won't). Thus priests in Catholicism have the power to pardon sins. |
Ah yes absolution however all branches of Christianity do not have the same method for absolution.
I was at a Baptist funeral ceremony once where the preacher was saying the deceased was forgiven all his sins because he accepted Jesus (as)as his personal saviour....that the deceased was at that time already in heaven.
There had been no act of contrition or pennance...
Contrition
Penance
but according to that preacher all was A OK. Interesting indeed to see different interpretations.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 11:37 am |
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Quoting alameda:
Ummmm.....I guess the Inquisition followed in these lines?
Inquisition
Rather, I think they would still be doing this if the general populace had not become so disgusted in the whole thing. If they had the power, do you think they wouldn't do this again?
Witch Trials |
I love it that the only argument you're using is the Inquisition and Witch Hunt, what does it have to do with the notion of sin and pardon. Read well about the reasons of both Inquisition and Witch Hunt and you'll see it wasn't only about religion and there was no way it would last until this day. Besides, Catholic Church apologised for it a loooong time ago admitting it was wrong. Still you use it as if it was their welcoming brochure And don't paste here links from incidents of "witch hunt" in 0th century as they were against Church will, a way of lynch actually. You may want to add selling parts of dead saints as form of selling pardon, that would be more sensible.
It's actually funny I am defending Christians as I don't accept their views but your approach is just ridiculous. If non-Muslim quote part of Qran, they always misinterpret it and you say it's not what Quran says. When you're looking for a stone against Christians, you analyse actions not words so just the contrary of what you apply to Muslims That's a huge contradiction, ain't it? So, again, the Bible says "Don't judge and you won't be judged" - Inquisitors judged so they already are judged as they're dead. Inquisition was against what Bible says and was condemned by contemporary Church.
As for pardoning after death...I'd like to believe it's better to falsely assume your father is pardoned after death than to encourage your son to die killing 200 people around him with the vision of heaven.
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 01:52 pm |
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And just a thought - what does it all have to do with the fact that it is a lie that Christians are able to choose which rules to follow?
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11 Jul 2008 Fri 06:45 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: And just a thought - what does it all have to do with the fact that it is a lie that Christians are able to choose which rules to follow? |
I mention this because you say Christians are able to choose which rules to follow. Of course, the follower having and making use of their "free will" chooses to follow or not follow the decrees of their faith, however, until very recently if certain rules were NOT followed dire consequences would follow. Even today one may find themself shunned for not following rules.
All the Abrahamic faiths believe in free well. Without that, there would not be much meaning to the concept of sin.
Perhaps what we should define is, just what is Christianity? There are Trinitarian (Nicaean Creed) and Unitarian (Arian) Christianity....Most practiced branch of Christianity is Trinitarian, or Nicaean Creed. Then you have numerous subdivisions that give authority to various aspects of life.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 09:41 am |
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Quoting alameda:
I mention this because you say Christians are able to choose which rules to follow. Of course, the follower having and making use of their "free will" chooses to follow or not follow the decrees of their faith, however, until very recently if certain rules were NOT followed dire consequences would follow. Even today one may find themself shunned for not following rules.
All the Abrahamic faiths believe in free well. Without that, there would not be much meaning to the concept of sin.
Perhaps what we should define is, just what is Christianity? There are Trinitarian (Nicaean Creed) and Unitarian (Arian) Christianity....Most practiced branch of Christianity is Trinitarian, or Nicaean Creed. Then you have numerous subdivisions that give authority to various aspects of life.
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Until recently? I haven't heard of burning heretics on stakes in 20th century, yet, I still hear of fighting infidels with bombs...
As for what is Christianity, it is a religion, just like Islam with its denominations (like Sunni and Shi'a resulting from different interpretations of scripts and applying different practices of worship. Although Christianity is the biggest religion in the world (meaning the number of followers) I see no big resemblance between many denominations, the only thing that unites them is the book they base on. Out of all Christians, Catholics are the most historically reprehensible as what they created was a profit-bringing institution based on power. They are responsible for your hobby-horse (Inquisition, Witch Hunt, Crusades etc). On the bright side, their influence on contemporary world is minor. I actually think that there's just 4 European countries with Catholics being in majority (Poland, Italy, Eire and Spain - I excluded Vatican as that's another thing). Most of Europe is Protestant but even in the predominantly Catholic countries, there's freedom of religion and all denominations and religions have constitutional rights to exist.
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12 Jul 2008 Sat 12:11 pm |
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http://www.bcbsr.com/bsg.html
This is a massive website, so I shouldn't think any of us, including myself, can comment too much on it unless it has been read thoroughly. But some people were talking about what is Christianity and I have found this website, so far I haven't finished it and probably won't for a while it's so large, very useful in explaining it. But it is as it says, a study, so there are many links you need to progress through.
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