Haven´t read that one of her, and I must admit I don´t like AHA, I know enough scandals around her to think I can´t trust her.

Share the dirt.  Always interested in a juicy story.

 In short: she changed from socialistic (which here is according to the us very very left wing) to liberal (here very right wing) within 4 years. Her statements changed 180 degrees. So not really trustworthy.

And she got her Dutch passport with a false name and false refugee story. There was even a moment the government was thinking of taking her passport and declaring her non-Dutch again.

 Ms Ali is now a member of the esteemed conservative Enterprise Institute....

Ah yes, I read about it in the book, she did write about it.

I thought maybe you were talking about the scandal with the Submission movie where the director was killed. Although then it wouldn´t be a juicy story, only tragic. I saw it on YouTube by the way, I wasn´t too impressed with the actress. 

I don´t really have an opinion about her as a person, I do admire her though for having the balls to speak out against the evils done in the name of her religion (e.g. she writes about genital mutiliation among other things). You don´t hear much of that from Muslims themselves, it´s usually the outsiders that do it.

 , She only wants status so she can tell any lie for this, actually all her life is based on lie(Hayatý yalan ). Shes very hypocrite, she describes herself atheist, but as far as i remember she is/was working for right-winged Christian thinktank of American government...

 As if a non-religious person can´t work for a religious orientated organisation, how narrow minded. I worked for years for catholic and christian ´with-the-bible´ schools (and these ARE strict) but my non-believing was never a problem, not for me, not for them.

  That has nothing to do with narrow-mindness. Its all about hypocracy and everybody knows that Christian organization of American government uses her in their anti-islamic propogand so that both sides are satisfied. She was also refuted many times about lies in her book, once her brother declared she never experienced war and hardship and he added her forced marriage was lie too, she accepted it herself so she could flee her family...

It´s really her life story so we´ll never know what is true or not. It is possible that her brother is trying to discredit her because of the "shame" she brought to the family by what she did. But we´ll never know for sure, it´s "he said, she said" situation.

I didn´t know she was used by "Christian organization of American government ...in their anti-islamic propogand" and I live in the USA. How I found out about her is by reading books by other people who are critical of ALL religions (Harris, Dawkins, Hitchens, etc), basically the book was recommended as a story of someone who breaks away from religion of origin. It would be interesting to find out if the extend of the "anti-Islamic propaganda" you refer to matches what your perception of it is, or whether your perception of it is influenced by anti-west propaganda to convince people that the west is anti-Islam. I don´t know and I´m not trying to start a fight with you here.

And maybe you can ask yourself, why there would be a need for any anti-Islamic propaganda to begin with. The radicals make the religion seem so horrid that no extra effort is required to be scared of it (fear breeds all kinds of negative emotions). And not many moderates are speaking against it. Maybe people need to see the positive aspects of Islam, and I dare say they are not very visible nowadays, all the Muslims get is bad rap, either as a result of the actions of fundamentalists or by misperception of what the "true Islam" is (if it indeed should be peacful, I´m non-religious, to me all religions are absurd).

It seems to me that many Muslims prefer to complain about how people are perceiving them instead of looking into reasons why they are perceived as they are. Sometimes it´s the stupidity/ignorance of people who are prejudiced. Sometimes it´s just fear. And sometimes it´s just the actions of Muslims who hide behind religion to justify terror and human rights abuse. Not many people are speaking about that. AHA did and that´s what I admire her for, regardless whether or not her verision of events agrees with that of her brother.

So how that can be her real life story if well never know the truth as you said? Actually truth is very-well known, just google “Ayaan Hirsi Ali true story”, besides i never stand my opinion only his brother, that was just a small example. Its officially proved that shes liar by Dutch Government. So i reject to trust a liar, thats what a normal human do.

It seems you never listened to her, just read her book.  Her aim is just to attack and provoke not a solution, and she wants people think she is a victim of Islam which is absolutely wrong, this is very clear. She relates every bad thing to Islam and claims that it is in the Quran and tries to show Islamic states and the Quran in the same box which is some members here usually do. She has no Islamic knowledge even she confuses traditions with Islam. She has invited many times to conferences with muslims but she denied. She was confronted by moderate groups, but still she just attacked it. So this lady has a problem. She is a clear muslim hater and Islam hate is her income earning business. She even wasnt raised in an Islamic society, because the greater society in Kenya non-muslim. She just used her to get a free ticket to Europe. She flagrantly lied to her collegues in the parliament about her experiences in Africa and who knows else.

It is clear for me why there is anti-islamic propogand because that satisfies the weapon traders who are imperialists and that supports their middle east-project which they planned after cold-war. So they are using religions both Islam, christianity or any religion, they have been feeding these fanatics as they needed another enemy after cold war period so they have chosen Islam. Actually there are neither radicals nor moderates in Islam, Islam is Islam, that ones are out of Islam in my opinion. I dont like the terms moderate and radical.

Many muslims do not complain, they just voice what has been going on the world. And how do you know that real muslims do not condemn violent acts? If it is so that muslims condemn those, you are not able to see that ones because of your biased media. 

here is the youtube link for her real story:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ayan+Hirsi+True+story&search_type=&aq=f

That´s exactly right, I only read her book and saw the movie she made with the Dutch director who was killed by a Mulism (moderate?) for making it. So I don´t know whether all the arguments you have against her are true or not. I´m basing my post on what I´ve read, and you´re entitled to your own opinion based on what you know. You may be right or you may be wrong, frankly, she´s not somebody I´m going to go to war over with you or anybody else.

Just because you choose to ignore the fact that there are people (which some call radical) that are using Islam to justify violent acts, it doesn´t mean that it´s not an issue. You may call them out of Islam, but that´s not what project themselves as.

How do I know real Muslims do not condemn violent acts? Well, I guess that depends on what you would define as a "real Muslim" to begin with. I would imagine normal, regular people would condemnt violent acts. But if they do, they surely do it quietly, at least quietly enough that the biased media don´t show it (funny though, I watch media from abroad, don´t even watch American tv all that much, but interestingly enough, it´s quiet there too about Muslims protesting violance by other Muslims against both Muslims and "infidels"). Also, there´s been a survey done, and I think it´s in one of Sam Harris´s book about what percentage of people approve suicide bombings "to defend Islam" and the numbers are terrifying. I know surveys are not always accurate, but still, if you even take the margin of error into consideration it´s still awful.

You don´t have to go far to see it too. You complain about the bias of the "western" members. During the massacre in Gaza how many "infidels" expressed their outrage? There´s been multiple threads/posts about it. Where are the threadss with the outrage against violent Muslims expressed by Muslims? All you can say is "It´s not Islam" and how dare you criticize and all west is racist, prejudiced, biased, etc.

Again, I´m not trying to pick a fight with you. It seems that you get real defensive when Islam is discussed. But as you can voice your perception of what´s going on in the world, so can I, and to me, Islam, as a religion, does not have a very friendly face right now. And no, I DON´T think every Muslim is a terrorist killer, if that´s going to be your next argument.