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Thread: Resemble Tenses

4481.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 12:42 pm

İ cann't understand well when we use Belirsiz Geçmiş Zaman 'Reported past'(mIş ) and Geniş Zaman 'Aorist' (r) Türkçede

İ thought Geniş Zaman is like present simple in English,we use is when we want to imply a fact is happening

But when i use it in translation and ask for correction,mostly
İ find using the Geniş Zaman wasn't the right thing

So when do we use both tenses ?

Tşkler



Thread: -ki and -in suffixes

4482.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 12:30 pm

Ok,i understand (ki ) when it comes with the word
Like evdeki, arabadak

But sometimes it come seperated from the word,
İ saw it in a sentence in the translate it forum
İ didn't know how to put it,so i translated it as if it wasn't seperated

So what is the difference in meaning and usadge between them ?



Thread: i can't find this word in the dictionary

4483.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 12:17 pm

these are 2 suffix we add them (LI ) and (sIz)

And ofcourse each of them got 4 shapes accourding to the harmony rule
Lı ,Li,Lu,Lü....Sız,Siz,Suz,Süz

You can add them to the word to describe thig,or someone,something
And they are opposite in meaning with each other

Like this

Akıl... means mind Akıllı,,,means the one with the mind,like wise
Akılsız.... means he got no mind'unreasonable, foolish'

Kalp...means heart..kalplı ..means kind
Kalpsiz...means cruel

Şekerli kahve...means coffe with sugar
Şekersiz kahve...means coffee without sugar

And so on

Ohh,btw, here kalp.. it took kalpsiz, not kalpsız, because we pronounce the L so soft sound,so it take a soft sound in vowel too
And that goes mostly with most of the foreigner words Türkçede

Kalp is an arapçe word
You would find same with some other words,like

Saat,harf,seyahat,...and so on




Thread: A question about the word "gitmeye"

4484.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 11:35 am

Bir şey değil,

İ done nothing really

And,not really,its not sound stupid to me,i'm a beginner too as well,but we can say semi beginner,,lol
And i know the difficult in learning it as well

İ think exchanging knowledge is very useful for us to learn,it may let us understand something we didn't even think to ask about

What do you mean exactly by the s case being added to the verb ?

you mean (Iş ) being added to the verb root as in

Gediş ?



Thread: pronouns part 2

4485.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 11:05 am

No,its ok,i understand what you said,and i understand that triple negative thing too
thx,

but here

Hiçbir şey görmedim : I didn't see nothing

Hiç means Never, so in English we consider it double nagative

But i may understand,so correct me if i am wrong pls,

Here in this sentence,from Türkçe point of view,it is only 1 negative,because hiç doesn't considered a negative sentense ,it is only supportive with the negative sentence,or with a question

But in Türkçe point of view,
Double negative is when we use 2 negative suffix together,like (ma) negative suffix with (değil)
Or double (ma) negative suffix together

İn this case,the double negative mean affirmative

Doğru mu ?



Thread: Part of a song

4486.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 10:39 am

Thx,Ayla

wooww,she is desperately in love

Can we translate it here like this ?

Neden bilmem özlüyorum ellerini ver
İ don't know why i miss your hands, GİVE



Thread: pronouns part 2

4487.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 10:35 am

ok,now i'm confused

When does this rule work,and when it doesn't ?

A rule,is a rule,mostly it works in any cases,
Specially rule like this

İ know there would be exceptions,but,maybe with suffix or something like that

But to differentiate between nagative and affirmative ?

Sometimes double nagative means STİLL negative,and other times
Double nagative means affirmative ???

That is very confusing ...

What is the rule then ?
When is which?



Thread: pronouns part 2

4488.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 10:06 am

Then this rule not working at all Türkçede ,right ?

negative of the nagative İS affirmative

Like to say,

İ did NOT, see NOTHİNG

Means,i saw something

Then this rule is not exist in any case in Türkçe,right ?



Thread: TAVLA

4489.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 09:51 am

msn gaming zone is good too,nice boards,nice colours,but you must have your friend on msn so you can play with him or her



Thread: Love or Infatuation?

4490.       CANLI
5084 posts
 26 Aug 2006 Sat 08:09 am

How lovely poem,i wonder who wrote it ?



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