Hello,Joanne,
Only this is a little bit advanced for use,they are just having different opinion about the name of the infinitive
İ guess what we lerners care more about,is its function not its name,so it is just a bit advanced for us
As for the infinitive,it is the name of the verb
As in English we for example have the verb come
But Coming,is the process of the verb itself
İt is exactly like this
But in Türkçe,it takes more than one shap,we talk here about 2 of them,and i believe it takes more than 2 shaps too
We talk about long infinitive and short infinitive,we call them this way to differentiate between them
İt takes those suffix 'mek' 'mak' and 'me' 'ma' accourding to the vowel harmony
Both have the same meaning,but different in their usadge
'mek' 'mak' is common and you cann't personalize it
mean while 'me' 'ma' you can personalize it
Let's take a look here
Trafik kurallarına uyMAK gerek......common
Meaning,Following trafic rules,must
Trafik kurallarına uyMAmız gerek....personalized
OUR following trafic rules,must
See here,it is not common adrressing to everyone,it is strictly adrressed to us
Sorry,the translation not perfect,but i wanted to show you the difference word by word
Again,it is same here
Yalan söyleMEK yanlış bir davranıştır.....common
Saying lie,wrong behavior
İt is common saying for everyone
But here
(Senin) Yalan söyleMEn hiç hoş değil.....personalized
Your saying lie,not nice
here it is addrressed for a specific person,which i am talking to
But notice something here, we add the possessive pronouns to 'ma' 'me' which we call it the short infinitive, we don't add the personal pronouns
İ hope i could explained what you were asking,pls feel free to ask what ever you want,and you will get the answer you are seeking inşallah from the wonderful friends overe here
Read all the posts above too,and you will get it inşallah
And correction is welcome for any info i've said
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