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Sounds good Yeah, I´ve been having some bad days lately, not in a good mood. Staying of the forums too, other than the language ones lol. But tell me, don´t some of those women just make you cringe?

Tina, do I really sound that bitter?

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This is how I understand it.

When the -dikçe suffix is attached to a verb stem it indicates a certain continutity or repetitiveness to that verb. In English, that can be expressed by many words such as, for example: as, each time, every time, whenever, the more, as long as, so long as, etc.

Here´s some examples to maybe clarify it a bit:

Arkadaþýný gördükçe yüzü güler. Whenever you see your friend, he´s happy.

Onu gördükçe aðlar. Whenever he sees it, he weeps.

Çocuk, büyüdükçe güzelleþiyor. As the child is growing, s/he is getting more beautiful/handsome.

Yaþlandýkça hayatý daha bir ciddiye aliyor. As he gets older, he takes like more seriously.

Gönül taze kaldýkça insan ihtiyarlamaz. A person doesn´t grow old as long as his/her heart stays young.

So this can be translated in many ways, not only as "the more" - the idea is that something happens continuously or is repetitious.

I think It would be a great suffix to use in marital spats (The more I look at you, the more I wish I married your brother!, Whenever I tell you to do something, you pretend not to listen! You get the idea )

Now, when you use -dikçe on a negative verb stem, it expresses the idea of "unless", for example:

Özür dilmedikçe bizi affetmeyecekmiþ. They say he will not forgive us unless we apologize.

Bir iþi sevmedikçe baþarýlý olamazsin. Unless you love your work, you cannot be successful.

I concur, I find "Teach Yourself Beginner´s Turkish" and "Teach Yourself Turkish" to be really good and beginner friendly. I´m also using "Gökkuþaðý Türkçe", which I think is excellent, however it´s all in Turkish, so you need to know the basics to be able to use it (or use it with a teacher).

I think the easiest way to differentiate between the two (at least for me) is to think of "konuþmak" as the verb "to talk" and "konuþma" as the noun "talking". It is actually called a verbal noun and can take suffixes that you would usually attach to a noun, for example "(y)ý" which puts this noun in the accusative case (makes it an object of the verb).

sorry, double post

I am indeed very pleased with your preferences (likes maybe?) O puanla dönmek (not sure how to translate this) if you want you can send me to Eurovision. The Chambao song that you sent I also memorized. In all I memorized 23 songs in Spanish. If I learned Spanish more it would be good but by all means I am determined I will be studying.

The songs that you sent me I´m listening with great pleasure. Many thanks for sharing. I will be waiting with great excitement.

Please wait for corrections by a native or a more experienced learner. I´m not sure if this is accurate.