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Thread: Mother Teresa

461.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 08:57 pm

I remembered something about the black men. It´s a bit by David Sedaris about Santa Claus. It´s called "6 to 8 Black Men". I think you´d enjoy it.

 

Here´s the best part:

 

"The words silly and unrealistic were redefined when I learned that
Saint Nicholas travels with what was consistently described as "six
to eight black men." I asked several Dutch people to narrow it
down, but none of them could give me an exact number. It was always
"six to eight," which seems strange, seeing as they´ve had hundreds
of years to get a decent count.

The six to eight black men were characterized as personal slaves
until the mid-fifties, when the political climate changed and it
was decided that instead of being slaves they were just good
friends. I think history has proven that something usually comes
between slavery and friendship, a period of time marked not by
cookies and quiet times beside the fire but by bloodshed and
mutual hostility. They have such violence in Holland, but rather
than duking it out among themselves, Santa and his former slaves
decided to take it out on the public. In the early years, if a
child was naughty, Saint Nicholas and the six to eight black men
would beat him with what Oscar described as "the small branch of
a tree."

"A switch?"

"Yes," he said. "That´s it. They´d kick him and beat him with a
switch. Then, if the youngster was really bad, they´d put him in
a sack and take him back to Spain."

"Saint Nicholas would kick you?"

"Well, not anymore," Oscar said. "Now he just pretends to kick
you."

"And the six to eight black men?"

"Them, too."

He considered this to be progressive, but in a way I think it´s
almost more perverse than the original punishment. "I´m going to
hurt you, but not really."  How many times have we fallen for that
line? The fake slap invariably makes contact, adding the elements
of shock and betrayal to what had previously been plain, old-
fashioned fear. What kind of Santa spends his time pretending to
kick people before stuffing them into a canvas sack? Then, of
course, you´ve got the six to eight former slaves who could
potentially go off at any moment. This, I think, is the greatest
difference between us and the Dutch. While a certain segment of
our population might be perfectly happy with the arrangement, if
you told the average white American that six to eight nameless
black men would be sneaking into his house in the middle of the
night, he would barricade the doors and arm himself with whatever
he could get his hands on.

"Six to eight, did you say?"

In the years before central heating, Dutch children would leave
their shoes by the fireplace, the promise being that unless they
planned to beat you, kick you, or stuff you into a sack, Saint
Nicholas and the six to eight black men would fill your clogs
with presents. Aside from the threats of violence and kidnapping,
it´s not much different from hanging your stockings from the
mantel. Now that so few people have a working fireplace, Dutch
children are instructed to leave their shoes beside the radiator,
furnace, or space heater. Saint Nicholas and the six to eight black
men arrive on horses, which jump from the yard onto the roof. At
this point, I guess, they either jump back down and use the door,
or they stay put and vaporize through the pipes and electrical
wires. Oscar wasn´t too clear about the particulars, but, really,
who can blame him? We have the same problem with our Santa. He´s
supposed to use the chimney, but if you don´t have one, he still
manages to come through. It´s best not to think about it too hard.

While eight flying reindeer are a hard pill to swallow, our
Christmas story remains relatively simple. Santa lives with his
wife in a remote polar village and spends one night a year
traveling around the world. If you´re bad, he leaves you coal. If
you´re good and live in America, he´ll give you just about anything
you want. We tell our children to be good and send them off to bed,
where they lie awake, anticipating their great bounty. A Dutch
parent has a decidedly hairier story to relate, telling his
children, "Listen, you might want to pack a few of your things
together before you go to bed. The former bishop from Turkey will
be coming along with six to eight black men. They might put some
candy in your shoes, they might stuff you in a sack and take you
to Spain, or they might just pretend to kick you. We don´t know
for sure, but we want you to be prepared."

lol



Thread: english to turkish please

462.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 08:54 pm

 

Quoting dilliduduk

 

 

{#lang_emotions_ty_ty}

 

 Awww, thank you, thank you, thank you



Thread: Mother Teresa

463.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 08:44 pm

 

Quoting Trudy

 

 

Sorry to disturb this, but Saint Nicholas is NOT the same as Santa Claus. We celebrate it not on December 6th but on the 5th (here is Wiki wrong!). Saint Nicholas (or Sinterklaas / Sint Nicolaas) was in reality born in Myra (now Demre), is burried in Bari in Italy and for us (our kids) he lives in Spain. He rides a white horse and has black helpers (Zwarte Pieten / Black Peters). Your Santa Claus lives near Rovaniemi in Finland, Northpole area. This one rides a sledge with reindeer and his helpers are elves.

 

I´m gonna send my Santa Claus to beat your Sinterklaas up! lol 

 

Black helpers? {#lang_emotions_wtf} 



Edited (3/1/2009) by Melek74



Thread: english to turkish please

464.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 07:30 pm

 

Quoting bella2509

sorry i missed you on msn today, but i was very busy  i cooked dinner for all the family. yes we do keep missing each other on msn.

 

Bugün seni kaçýrdýðým için özür dilerim, ama çok meþguldüm, bütün aileme yemek piþiriyordum. Evet, birbirimizi msn´de kaçýrmaya devam ediyoruz.

 

Please wait for corrections.



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Thread: CORRUPTION

465.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 07:24 pm

 

Quoting yilgun-7

Are there bribe, tip and tax evasion in the world countries?

 

Yes

 



Thread: Femme´s Laundramma(t)

466.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 06:12 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

today is Sunday {#lang_emotions_head_bang}

even chineese dont work today

 

How come I´m at work? {#lang_emotions_unsure} {#lang_emotions_head_bang} 



Thread: Femme´s Laundramma(t)

467.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 05:53 pm

What no new drammas today? Are you taking a day off?



Thread: Mother Teresa

468.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 05:49 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

did you read the link?

where does it say he was?

 

Oh, it just says:

 

Born c. February 15, december(december-02-15) 270 A.D. (the Ides of March)[1], Patara, Lycia, Asia Minor (modern-day Turkey)

 

That makes him born in modern-day Turkey, I really don´t know what his ethic background was, that´s why I said "kind-of". lol



Thread: short t-e please... thank you... :)

469.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 05:47 pm

 

Quoting dilliduduk

 

 

 

 

 Thank you Dilliduduk. {#lang_emotions_flowers}



Thread: short t-e please... thank you... :)

470.       Melek74
1506 posts
 01 Mar 2009 Sun 05:39 pm

 

Quoting justinetime

 

 

oh ok... thank youuuuuuuuu

 

You´re welcome. We still need somebody to check it though.



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