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Thread: tur to eng please

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caliptrix
3055 posts

30 Mar 2008 Sun 04:41 pm

Quoting deli:

allah allah lol

couldnt find tikla

tık is the turkish sound of click

tıklamak is the verb form

Thread: Ulaçlar

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caliptrix
3055 posts

30 Mar 2008 Sun 04:36 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting Dilara:

So I dont need to add the -m/-n etc to the verb ?
for example :
I went to school to study turkish
" TurkÃ§e Ã§alismak iÃ§in okula gittim "
or
"TurkÃ§e Ã§alismaM iÃ§in okula gittim "
hangisi dogru?

simdiden tesekkurler.

İ wouldnt answer when a teacher is arround

But i will give it a try

When you say ,TurkÃ§e Ã§alismak...that give the meaning of studying Turkish
İt doesnt have to be YOUR studying
As when you say,i hate lying

yalan sÃ¶ylemek sevmiyorum
You mean you hate lying periodly

When you say,
Yalan sÃ¶ylemen sevimiyorum,
Means,you hate his lying,maybe because he''personally'' always lies and you have fed up

So it gives more personal meaning

So when you say,
I went to school to study turkish
" TurkÃ§e Ã§alismak iÃ§in okula gittim "
or
"TurkÃ§e Ã§alismaM iÃ§in okula gittim
İ went to school to MY study of turkish.

İ guess both are right,and its your choice which to use .

PS:Correction is much welcome

Corrections about your Turkish sentences:
Yalan sÃ¶ylemeyi sevmiyorum.
Yalan sÃ¶ylemeni sevmiyorum.

Explanation is done in the post before this one.

Thread: Ulaçlar

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caliptrix
3055 posts

30 Mar 2008 Sun 04:29 pm

Quoting Dilara:

Both are ok but the second one sounds very odd. as I tried to explain: the activity 1: "tÃ¼rkÃ§e Ã§alışmak", and the activity 2: "okula gitmek" are done by same person: "ben"

so we don't need to put -m suffix again. this one is better:
TÃ¼rkÃ§e Ã§alışmak iÃ§in okula gittim

Thread: Ulaçlar

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caliptrix
3055 posts

30 Mar 2008 Sun 04:17 pm

Quoting Dilara:

Quoting caliptrix:

eylem + ma + iyelik eki + iÃ§in:
gitmem iÃ§in
1) Annem Ankara'ya gitmem iÃ§in ısrar etti
My mother insisted me to go to Ankara; or "that I go to Ankara" (sorry if English sentence is wrong)

2) Eve gitmem iÃ§in paraya ihtiyacım vardı.
I needed money (in order) to go home.

I have never been able to understand this form... why "gitmeM iÃ§in" I always use "gitmek iÃ§in" = in order to ...?

If both activites are done by same person, -mek is ok. But what if they are done by two different people? Then, you have to say which is whose. To make that clear, we use this form. We can also use this form when the acitvities are done by same person.

Thread: Ulaçlar

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caliptrix
3055 posts

30 Mar 2008 Sun 04:04 pm

Quoting CANLI:

Quoting caliptrix:

eylem + mak Ã¼zere + kişi eki:
gitmek Ã¼zereyim: i am about to go

eylem + mak Ã¼zere:
İstanbul'a gitmek Ã¼zere evden ayrıldım
I left home in order to go to İstanbul

Dinlenmek Ã¼zere konferansa ara verdik.
JÃ¼ri birinciyi seÃ§mek Ã¼zere toplanacak.

What does -mak Ã¼zere mean in both sentence ?!
İs it true its meaning become different depends on its position in the sentence,if its first or middle ?!

This thread was an old one. So I needed a bit time to remember what we are talking about

Now, I guess that both usages are suitable for the understanding of these examples as grammar. But as meaning, your sentences says "in order to" form. I mean, they show your aim.

Dinlenmek Ã¼zere konferansa ara verdik.
We took a break at the conference in order to get relaxed.

It hardly means "we took a break when we were about to relax" or something like that. I mean, that is not meaningful.

But your aim is clear: to get relaxed
You are tired because of the flow of the conference, so you decided to take a break. You aim is "to get relaxed" (dinlenmek) and your activity is "to take a break" (ara vermek).

JÃ¼ri birinciyi seÃ§mek Ã¼zere toplanacak.
Jury will meet in order to choose the winner.

As you see, the aim is to choose the winner (the first place= birinciyi seÃ§mek)
The activity is to meet(toplanmak)

Both are done by same "subject", same "doer": Jury. So we use "seÃ§meK Ã¼zere".

Thread: turk-eng

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caliptrix
3055 posts

27 Mar 2008 Thu 01:53 pm

Quoting deli:

Quoting tuppelitah:

sensiz olamiyorum

I can be without you

"I can't be without you"

Thread: Marion Please Yok / Var

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caliptrix
3055 posts

24 Mar 2008 Mon 03:45 am

Quoting jools:

Hi ..you entered the following explanation on a message earlier :-
Yokum comes from adding the personal ending for me to the word yok= there isn't any

yokum= I am not here
yoksun= you are not here
yok / yoktur= he/she/it is not here or there isn't any
yokuz= we are not here
yoksunuz= you are not here
yoklar= they are not here

I would like to ask, can the same be done for Var ?

Thanks

Yes,

(ben) varım
(sen) varsın
(o) var
(biz) varız
(siz) varsınız
(onlar) varlar

But actually "yok" does NOT mean "not here". YOK says something absent.

Yokum: I am absent/away or I don't exist

so, var means the reverse:

Varım: I am in/ I am here/ I exist

Thread: THE ENGINEERS

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caliptrix
3055 posts

24 Mar 2008 Mon 03:33 am

Quoting yilgun-7:

According to my friends in the university, people is divided into two section=
1-The Engineers,
2-The others.
What do you think about this topic?

Do you mean, in Turkey?

Thread: fenerbahce

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caliptrix
3055 posts

23 Mar 2008 Sun 10:17 pm

Quoting bjk:

Like for galatasaray you've got

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UltrAslanlogo.jpg

and for bjk

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9610/carsi3bk8.jpg

I understand now. They are groups, there are many groups tan they. I don't know much about FenerbahÃ§e groups, but your first flag can be that.

Thread: fenerbahce

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caliptrix
3055 posts

23 Mar 2008 Sun 09:54 pm

Quoting bjk:

i know that one I mean sometimes i supporters have one too.....does the one I found not mean anything?

x

I don't know. If you know, can you show us them for the other Turkish teams?

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