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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

601.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 20 Oct 2012 Sat 04:52 am

 

Quoting vineyards

Any dialogue that involves God is doomed for failure unless the parties share the same belief.

 

Let´s avoid god for some time! There may be different explanations for different beliefs. Everbody doesnt have to believe the same thing but truth is independent of the people´s beliefs. We can meet at least logic part. Logical explanations are acceptable for all of us.



Thread: What is meaning when miş was adding to noun

602.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 10:43 pm

you can use them without -miş at the and but meaning changes slightly.

güzel: beautiful, i know it is beautiful, i am sure it is beautiful.

güzelmiş: (as a comment) it is beautiful, i didnt know that it is such beautiful, i wasnt sure that it is such beautiful but now i see and understand that it is clearly beautiful!

that is the difference...

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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

603.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 10:33 pm

 

Brain and neural system......are they really our tools of perception, or could they be a kind of screen that filter (limit) our capability of perception - allowing us only a partial perception of the universe -  perhaps to protect us from what we are not ready (prepared) to perceive yet ?

 

i think our body with all neural system is a tool to see, to move, to live in this temporary world. it gives us the ability to do whatever we can able to do, otwerwise we would be like dead people. In other words, it gives us ability to act, rather than limit us.

But for some high level people, this body and life limits them, they are more free and more powerful after getting rid of this body, in other words, after death! by the will of God.

We are ready or not, we will see and understand what is right, what is wrong, what is truth after death! İnsanoğlu uykudadır, ölünce uyanır. (Humans are asleep, they wake up after death)

 

Can "development of human mind" be a pre-programmed relaxation of these limitations, thus increasing human capacity to understand and perceive, initiated by knowledge and hard work?

 

human capacity of understanding is not increasing, only the knowledge and technology is increasing. a man lived five thousands years ago may be more clever than a man now, but with less life comfort.

Are those without "knowledge and hard work" destined to remain at the basic level of being a human...while some others seem able to advance?

 

Knowledge and work is necessary but not enough. Ameller niyetlere göredir. (Deeds are by Intentions) Advancing in technology is not a criterion for total advance. You can have deadly weapons with ultra high technology after very hard working but this cannot make you an advanced human. Protecting and cleaning your heart, getting rid of bad habits and sins, helping others etc. make you an advanced human.

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we are going out of topic, this is not a good place for endless discussions.



Thread: US ELECTİONS - As Dirty As It Gets

604.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 03:54 am

Bizim başbakanımız da oğluna 3 milyon dolarlık gemicik almıştı. Başbakanın maaşı kaç lira?

 

Adamlar başkan olmuş, onlar almayacak da ben mi alacağım!



Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

605.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 03:46 am

 

Quoting vineyards

We humans have excellent mental capabilities thanks to our small but efficient brains. The brain has evolved over the millenias but its ultimate purpose has remained the same: to control our ancient body. The brain has also evolved in order to answeri the gradual changes in man´s life. Developed cognitive capabilities to ensure its protection and continuation.

The brain, despite all its complexity is merely a closed-circuit thinking machine. It cannot derive any conclusions unless those conclusions already exist as tangible concepts in its registry. The brain is also not very comfortable with facing its own limitations. There must always be canned a thought, a belief or a symbol to fill in for the missing parts in the said registry.

The brain tends to reject the idea of total-destruction. This self-driven thinking machine, does its magic by producing aliases to avoid dead-ends. Those dead-ends are the triggers of primeval fears. To suppress them we need a substitute the presence of which bridges the unknown with the known. This way the brain protects itself from unproductive vicious circles.

 

i respect biology but "evolved" part is not certain, at least for humans.

and there is more than brain. this "more" part is more important than the brain also!

The things makes our personality and consciousnes  are not a bunch of billions dumb cells in the brain. Yet we are partially connected to our brain and neural system until death.

we have soul and nafs, both unacceptable in modern biology. the closest expression of this concept may be metaphysics.
humans have the capability of doing good and bad things. soul id pure and good, and always likes good things. nafs is dirty and bad, and always likes bad things. the mind has partial capability of seperating good and bad and their results. there are some other metaphysical parts in human such as heart (not physical blood pump heart) etc...

all these have no connection to biology. and according to positivist scientists, there are no such things! But do we all have to be positivist!



Thread: E to T please

606.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 03:18 am

Allah kolaylık versin.



Thread: TENSES

607.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 19 Oct 2012 Fri 03:15 am

oku-yor-um: i am reading (now).
I have started reading and not finished yet.

oku-yor-du-m: i was reading (in the past).
I had started reading, continued some time and finished.

oku-yor ol-acağ-ım : i will be reading (it).

I will start reading and i will be in the middle of the action.

 

negatives:

oku-mu-yor-um

oku-mu-yor-du-m

oku-mu-yor ol-acağ-ım


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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

608.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 05:19 pm

anyways, let avoid the religious part temporarily and concentrate on positivist science.

 

anyone and anything can reach the speed of light if you push it enough. and you need an open space to do it, and that is literary space itself. but could you exceed the speed of light? maybe... teorically seems possible but nobody experimented it yet. and nobody knows what happens the objects exceed speed of light. today this expreriment is not affordable. more important that, it requires scientific and technological information on how to stop and come back again. i guess this may be possible 50 or 100 years later.

 

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Thread: CAN MAN TRAVEL FASTER THAN LİGHT ?

609.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 17 Oct 2012 Wed 02:25 pm

I appreciate works over space and time. But human being has limited power and knowledge. There are limits over us.

O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah ].
So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

There will be sent upon you a flame of fire and smoke, and you will not defend yourselves.

So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?

Holy Quran, Surat ar-Rahman, 33-36

Maybe not a light speed but quite close to it, transportation was took place centuries ago. But today we are struggling in a positivist science.

[Solomon] said, "O assembly [of jinn], which of you will bring me her throne before they come to me in submission?"
A powerful one from among the jinn said, "I will bring it to you before you rise from your place, and indeed, I am for this [task] strong and trustworthy."
Said one who had knowledge from the Scripture, "I will bring it to you before your glance returns to you." And when [Solomon] saw it placed before him, he said, "This is from the favor of my Lord to test me whether I will be grateful or ungrateful. And whoever is grateful - his gratitude is only for [the benefit of] himself. And whoever is ungrateful - then indeed, my Lord is Free of need and Generous."

Holy Quran, Surat an-Naml, 38-40



Thread: Ottoman Poetry

610.       ikicihan
1127 posts
 15 Oct 2012 Mon 08:03 pm

 

demedim mi sana yaraşır otağı kuran ben´im asıl, Haven´t I said "Marquee of Koran befits you and I am the one
 

 

i think the word "kuran" here is not a book name, it should be a verb: kur-mak: to build sth up. otağı kuran: the one who build (or erected) the otag (a big and luxury tent)



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