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04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:56 pm |
Quoting MrX67: Quoting juliacernat: Quoting MrX67: i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro... |
I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide |
rules?? pls don't make me lough,you will say u have to be democratical while you have many prejudices about other culture.sure more democracy,more dveloping,more human rights aim of all of us,but how you want from others that you have to be all like me,while the other has their own cultural and national specialities |
once sb has prejudgements towards other cultures/groups/minorities that sb cannot call itself democratic
cultural and national specificity cannot clash with democracy, rule of law or human rights; otherwise, if we do not agree that there are universal values, then we can legitimate arbitrary violence or just about anything having as an excuse the "national specificity"
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