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Thread: Plural / possessive question

301.       juliacernat
424 posts
 05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:21 pm

sorry, my mistake.....it is "kitabimiz"
regarding -lar/ler, the rule of the plural applies and the vowel harmony:
ev-evler; onlarin evleri
kiz-kizlar/ onlarin kizlari



Thread: Plural / possessive question

302.       juliacernat
424 posts
 05 Dec 2006 Tue 10:02 pm

Quoting Trudy:

I just had another lesson of Turkish. I learned about possisive suffixes like 'evim' and 'annem'. Also that kitapları has three meanings: his/her books (kitaplar + ı ), their book (kitap + ları ) and their books (kitap + ları, not twice lar because that's too much).

I forgot to ask my teacher so I do it here. Is this the same with the suffix -leri?

I mean, e.g. evleri, does that mean also: his/her houses (evler + i), their house (ev + leri) and their houses (ev + leri, not twice ler)?

I hope I made my question clear enough. Who can help me?



benim annem=my mother
senin evin=uor house
onun defteri=his/her notebook
bizim kitapimiz= our book
sizin gulumseniz= your smile
onlarin cocuklari= their kid/kids

benim mumlarim= my candles
senin sarkilarin= your songs
onun cantalari= his/her bags
bizim hatiralarimiz= our memories
sizin sorulariniz= your questions
onlarin odevleri= their homework/s

you just have to follow the mwaning, the vowel harmony and...the grammer rules

good luck!



Thread: time

303.       juliacernat
424 posts
 05 Dec 2006 Tue 09:23 pm

5.00= saat bes
12.10= saat on ikiyi on geciyor
14.05= saat dortu bes geciyor
9.15= saat dokuzu ceyrek geciyor
12.30= saat on iki bucuk
11.55= saat on ikiye bes var
10.45= saat on bire ceyrek var

the accusative (-i hali)= -i(biri),-i (kizi), -yi(altiyi), -u(dokuzu), -yu(koyluyu)
the dative (-e hali)= -a(ona), -e(bese), -ya(ablaya), -ye(anneye)



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

304.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:56 pm

Quoting MrX67:

Quoting juliacernat:

Quoting MrX67:

i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro...



I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide

rules??pls don't make me lough,you will say u have to be democratical while you have many prejudices about other culture.sure more democracy,more dveloping,more human rights aim of all of us,but how you want from others that you have to be all like me,while the other has their own cultural and national specialities



once sb has prejudgements towards other cultures/groups/minorities that sb cannot call itself democratic
cultural and national specificity cannot clash with democracy, rule of law or human rights; otherwise, if we do not agree that there are universal values, then we can legitimate arbitrary violence or just about anything having as an excuse the "national specificity"



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

305.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:44 pm

Quoting MrX67:

i believe each union sort of trade,so sides of any union has to give from itself for get somethings from other side.But when one side wants more and more,thats turns an unjustical trade.we Turkish people so disguisting about when hear somethings about EU lately,coz our politicans using this matter as a political material while Eu countries doesn't like to see Turkey in this union.sure our country has some economical,social and democratical problems,but i believe that we can solve all this problems ourself without support of any union,we Turkish people used to live with national proud,and we never want to lost this proud for a few more Euro...



I am sure that Turkey can solve its problems by itself; it is even easier when these problems are admitted
the national pride cannot be taken/stolen from a nation, and at the EU's door it is not written, like in Dante's Infern: all those wanting to join, leave yor hopes/pride at the doorstep.... not at all.
EU is an open door, but there are, indeed, conditions to enter .... no one forces no one inside, but if the answer before the open door is YES, then....there are rules to abide



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

306.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 09:02 pm

Quoting KeithL:

If this looks familiar, its because I posted this last summer.


I want Turkey to join the EU but not at a cost of losing its Turkish identity and secularism.

5 years ago, joining the EU meant something. But now, look at the impoverished nations that have little to offer that have been granted entrance before Turkey. It disgusts me.

The Turkish economy is growing at over 7% without being in the EU. Turkey is not a begger that needs to get on its knees to join the EU.

Key items that are not negotiable for entry:
Secularism, Cyprus, PKK, Armenia and internal military operations.

As long as these items are not on the table, I welcome it.



Joining the EU has nothing to do with loosing the national identity. The "EU standards" do not clash with any national specificity; moreover, there are enormous resources/funds that can be accessed by the member states and by the accessing countries for programs protecting and promoting diversity. EU is open to diversity and welcomes and encourages it.
regarding the other stament, as I underlined in the previous posts, the cryteria for becoming a member are both economic and political and the two must be simultaniously met. Therefore, it is not enough to have a fast developing economy- for this Turkey received a good report; political chapters must be closed, too. These are the rules, they are very clearly set and everybody wanting to join must abide them.



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

307.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 05:38 pm

Quoting aenigma x:

Quoting juliacernat:


and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO!



I am sorry but this is factually incorrect. The US are completely supporting Turkey in its bid to join the EU for the very reason that they ARE a NATO country and that they are Atlanticists. It will give the US a stronger position in the EU than they currently have with countries like France remaining independent.
Its TRUE!




once they are a EU Member and if the EU develops its Security and Defence Policy, the resources of the EU State Members will concentrate on the missions lead by EU. The European Security and Defence Policy is a competition for NATO and surely this is not the reason US supports the Turkey`s EU membership!



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

308.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:58 pm

Quote:


i think turkey is good enough for joining to europen union but there is one big reason for not to accept it its a muslum country, at the moment the last subject was about it opining cyprus's airpots and seaports.
i would love joining to europen union because it will change all standarts of our life, our life standarts will be 5 times better than now!
i hope europe is cordial about making turkey a member of the uinon!
if you think of bulgaria, how has it become a member of it? it was worse than turkey on economical condation.. it wasnt better than turkey on any subjet but its in europe now!




let`s not cling on cliches...
to say that a reason Turkey is not accepted because it is a muslim country is a false idea; after all EU is not a religious club and religion is not a cryteria!
and..regarding the US: US has no advantage in Turkey`s EU membership. Turkey is a NATO member and the US would not be so happy that one of its strategic partners join another alliance especially when this alliance (EU) has in plan to develop a security and defence policy to compete with the US security and defence policy within NATO!



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

309.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:33 pm

maybe it would be useful to have paralel votes
let the people of the EU member states vote whether Turkey should or should not be an EU Member
on the other hand, let the Turkish people express thier vote whether they want or not that thier country be an EU member



Thread: EUROPEAN UNİON AND TURKEY- A Friendly Voting..:)

310.       juliacernat
424 posts
 04 Dec 2006 Mon 04:33 pm

maybe it would be useful to have paralel votes
let the people of the EU member states vote whether Turkey should or should not be an EU Member
on the other hand, let the Turkish people express thier vote whether they want or not that thier country be an EU member



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