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Thread: tr-->en

251.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Dec 2014 Sat 04:15 pm

 

Quoting Henry

 

 

I guess you know Jean Christophe Grange is a French writer, so the translation to Turkish may have altered the original French words.

Until a native speaker attempts the translation, here is my attempt - starting with a breakdown of the sentence elements

mutlu olmak - to be happy (being happy)

yarına bırakmak - to leave till tomorrow

nehir - river

karşı = opposite

nehrin karşısı = the opposite (other) side of the river

nehrin karşısına geçmek için = for to pass to the other side of the river

o = he/she/it/that

nehrin durmasını beklemeye benzer - like waiting for the river to stop (flowing)

ve bilirsin o nehir asla durmaz - and you know that river never stops (flowing)

So roughly

To leave being happy till tomorrow is like waiting until a river stops flowing to cross to the other side, and knowing that this won´t ever happen.

or more simply

Don´t wait till tomorrow to be happy!

 

 

Great translation Henri ! {#emotions_dlg.applause}

 

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Thread: Grammar notes

252.       tunci
7149 posts
 27 Dec 2014 Sat 01:52 am

 

 Polite imperative -ınız


The formal imperative suffix -[y] INIZ denotes extra formality and politeness. More frequently encountered in formal written language, it is used  in adressing especially plural second persons. We see this form mostly in the warning or informative signs.

 

- Lütfen asansörün kapısını açık bırakmayınız.

"Please don´t leave the elevator door open "

 

- Lütfen bozuk para veriniz.

" Please give small money " 

 

- İçeri girerken ayakkabılarınızı çıkartınız.

"Please take off your shoes when you enter in."

 

-  Trende kabuklu yiyecekler yemeyiniz.  

"Please don´t consume[eat] shelled -food."

 

- Müzenin içinde resim çekmeyiniz.

"Please don´t take picture inside the museum."

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Thread: Grammar notes

253.       tunci
7149 posts
 26 Dec 2014 Fri 01:33 am

 

Subordinate Sentence with -mI

 

Sometimes question suffix -mi may be used to combine subordinate sentence with the main sentence.

 

Yaz  geldi  mi       tatile  giderdik.

Subordinate S.                 Main Sentence

When the summer came we used to go to holiday.

 

Gülmeye başladı mı     onu durduramazsın.

Subordinate S.              Main Sentence

Once he starts laughing you can´t stop him.

 

Güldü mü         dişleri  bembeyaz  parlardı.

Subordinate S.             Main Sentence

Whenever he/she smiles, his/her teeth shone so white.

 

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Thread: Test-230

254.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 11:53 pm

 

Complete the blanks in the sentences below

 

1) Hazır olacak  olan  var  

Are there any people[ones] who are going to be ready ?

 

2) Sabahları  saat  sekizle  dokuz  arasında  odamdayım.

I´m in my room[office] between eight and nine in the mornings.

 

 * Sabahları ----> in the mornings

* Akşamları ---> in the evenings


3) Yol şu  dağların  arasından  geçiyor.

The road goes through those mountains.

 

4) Orhan, "Tarık geçen sene çok çalışmıştı"  dedi.

Orhan said " Tarik had worked very hard last year".

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Thread: Grammar notes

255.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 08:57 pm

 

Example of İnformal / Formal Speech 

 

Informal  Speech                                 Formal  Speech or Writing


Fiyatlar  artıyor.                                   Fiyatlar  artmaktadır

Prices are increasing [ Prices are going up ]

 

Fiyatlar artacak.                                   Fiyatlar artacaktır.

 Prices will [are going to ] increase.

 

Fiyatlar  arttı.                                       Fiyatlar artmıştır.

 Prices [have] increased. [Prices have gone up]

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Thread: Test-230

256.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 05:50 pm

 

Complete the blanks in the sentences below

 

1) Hazır ol....  ol..  var  .. ? 

Are there any people[ones] who are going to be ready ?

 

2) Sabah....  saat  sekiz..  dokuz  ar......  odam.....

I´m in my room[office] between eight and nine in the mornings.

 

3) Yol ..  dağlar..  ara......   geç....

The road goes through those mountains.

 

4) Orhan, "Tarık ge...  sene çok çalış..... "  ....

Orhan said " Tarik had worked very hard last year".

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Thread: Test-229

257.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 04:45 pm

Complete the blanks in the sentences below.


 


1) Uğur diye  bir  arkadaşın  var  mı ?


Do you have a friend by the name of [called] Uğur ?


 


2) Yola  çıkmadan  önce arabanızı  tamir ettirmeliydiniz.


You should have had your car repaired before setting out on the trip.


 


3) Bana  bunu  yaptırtamazsınız.


You can not make me do such a thing.


 yap + tır +t + mak ---> here we have double causative. 


 


4) Konuşmadan  çalışamaz mısın?


Can´t you work without talking ?


 


* When using "without" with verbs, -madan/meden suffix is attached on verb stems.


- hesabı ödemeden gitti. ---> he left without paying the bill.


 

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Thread: Grammar notes

258.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 04:35 pm

 

 The abilitative suffix


The abilitative suffix -Abil  :

-ebil/-abil


"i" remains unchanged.

 

-[y]e/[y] are used preceding the negative suffix -me to form negative verb stems.

 

* In affirmative form [y]ebil also expresses permissibilitypossibility,andprobability in addition to ability.

 

Possibility and probability are expressed by participles with -ır  and -ıyor, the latter being used rather rarely. The intended denotations are determined contextually.

 

* In negative forms ability and permisibility are the only denotationsexpressed.

 

* Possibility and probability are expressable in the negative by a different verb form ---> çalış-ma-yabil + ir + im ---> I may not work 

 

There is still another verb form which expresses combinely both ability-permissibility and possibility-probability in the negative ---> çalış + a + ma + [y]abil + ir + im ---> I may not be able to work

 

çalış - abil - mek  --->  to be able to work

 

[Ben] çalış - abil -iyor- um ----> I am able to [can/may] work. [continuous]

[Ben] çalış -abil -ir -im ----> I am able to [can,may,might] work [general]

[Ben] çalış - abil -eceğ -im ---> I am going to be able to work.

[Ben] çalış -abil-miş-im  ----> [Reportedly] I was able to [could] work.

[Ben] çalış -abil -di- m ----> I was able to [could] work.

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çalış -a - ma -mak ----> not to be able to work

 

[Ben] çalış -a -mı- yorum. ---> I am not be able to[can´t] work. [continuous]

[Ben] çalış -a - ma- m ---> I am not be able to [can´t] work. [general]

[Ben] çalış -a - ma- yacağım ---> I am not going to be able to work.

[Ben] çalış - a - ma -mış -ım --> [Reportedly] I wasn´t be able to [couldn´t] work.

[Ben] çalış - a - ma -dı- m  ---> I wasn´t able to [couldn´t] work.

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Thread: Test-229

259.       tunci
7149 posts
 25 Dec 2014 Thu 01:53 am

 

Complete the blanks in the sentences below.

 

1) Uğur di..  bir  arka.....  ...  mı ?

Do you have a friend by the name of [called] Uğur ?

 

2) Yol.  çıkma...  önce araba....  tamir et.............

You should have had your car repaired before setting out on the trip.

 

3) Ba..  bu..  yap...ta........

You can not make me do such a thing.

 

4) Konuş.....  çalış........... ?

Can´t you work without talking ?

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Thread: Grammar notes

260.       tunci
7149 posts
 24 Dec 2014 Wed 10:40 pm

 

Initial reduplication

The repetition of the initial vovel of the underlined words below plus /p/ form a kind of prefix serving as an intensifier of the meaning. This prefix is used with some adjectives and a few adverbs.

 

apaçık 

Hakime her şeyi apaçık anlattılar. ---> They told the judge everything very clearly.

 

ıpıslak

Yağmurdan ıpıslak olduk. ---> We became all wet from the rain.

 

ipince

Bu ipince bluzla üşümüyor musun ?  ----> Aren´t you [feeling] cold wearing such a thin blouse ?

 

apaydınlık

upuzun

epeski

üpüzgün



Edited (12/24/2014) by tunci

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