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What Pam Coo's case means to you Turkish serious friends??
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 07:52 pm |
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Quoting maria/mesut: Pam & xkirstyx, i totally agree with you. I think this is horrible. I`ve read all the rude comments and i am shocked. No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. People here are rude to this girl and they make fun of her.. I DON`T GET THE POINT!! |
i agree with deli_kizin. She made very good point of the real issue here, responsability, which, i would add, implies maturity. Nobody's rude. I completely sympathize with Pam, and her tough situation. But, the most important thing is to see the solution to this. Noone, at least some of us are not disrespectful. Pam should take the good out of this posts, since she really needs it right now.
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:09 pm |
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Come on Portokal - this is rude.
Quoting portokal: Quoting PamCoop: Could you please not do this to me? you think this is fun, to discuss my biggest and worst problem? This was a final stop for me.. an embarassing thing to ask for but still i had no choice, to try to get help from nice ppl. And now you start to pick on me - why? Did i do something to you guys? I have not been rude or bad in anyway. So my question to you is - what kind of live do you live? What kind of ppl picks on others when they are already layin down?? |
If you expose yourself, there are risks of being judged...
You are still a naive, PamCoop...
grow up. |
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:13 pm |
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Quoting maria/mesut:
No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. |
Respect is not a divine right, it is something that is earned and it is difficult to respect anyone who put themselves in this situatuation and that is exactly what happened here...
I remember i told you; 'condom'..but you did not answer me.
This most be the worst thing in your life, to have a baby with a girl you barly know
Is there no responsiblity on her part just because she said the word condom but he didn't answer??? And how about having sex with someone you barely know??
Women need to accept responsiblity for what happens to them in these situations. When they do, they earn my respect.
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| 23. |
15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:15 pm |
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Quoting maria/mesut: Come on Portokal - this is rude.
Quoting portokal: Quoting PamCoop: Could you please not do this to me? you think this is fun, to discuss my biggest and worst problem? This was a final stop for me.. an embarassing thing to ask for but still i had no choice, to try to get help from nice ppl. And now you start to pick on me - why? Did i do something to you guys? I have not been rude or bad in anyway. So my question to you is - what kind of live do you live? What kind of ppl picks on others when they are already layin down?? |
If you expose yourself, there are risks of being judged...
You are still a naive, PamCoop...
grow up. |
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Maybe very short and pragmatic yes.
I am not a native english speaker.
Wasn t intended to be rude... At least if you read my other post here, it will tell.And i formerly wrote my opinion on this.
She should not be lying down...
and maybe is tough what i said about growing up... but her present situation is an outcome of being very inexperienced, or little immature, and much more harder.
and yes, when we state something (like i did in saying grow up), we will get reactions (like you telling me i was rude). All kind of reactions. This is something that we also need to learn, aren' t we? If you were to choose between her present situation and an advice on growing up, avoid these, what would you choose?
I was not at all
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:21 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting maria/mesut:
No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. |
Respect is not a divine right, it is something that is earned and it is difficult to respect anyone who put themselves in this situatuation and that is exactly what happened here...
I remember i told you; 'condom'..but you did not answer me.
This most be the worst thing in your life, to have a baby with a girl you barly know
Is there no responsiblity on her part just because she said the word condom but he didn't answer??? And how about having sex with someone you barely know??
Women need to accept responsiblity for what happens to them in these situations. When they do, they earn my respect. |
You exactly say what I think too! If you (anyone) are willing to have sex with a guy you hardly know (do as you like, you won't hear me object), then you should take precautions yourself. And if the guy doesn't want or doesn't react, then it should be a big NO. Giving in to him, that is what I call naive!
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:23 pm |
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I agree. You don`t have to like everybody or their desicions, but at least treat them with respect. Just think of yourself in that situation.. we can only try to imagine how it feels.
Of course she has a responsibility of getting into that situation - as well as the boy has. The difference is she is trying to make the best of out it while he`s an idiot and run away from everything. Who should be treated with no respect in this situation?
I also agree that she has to take responsibility for her situation from now on, but she`s just trying to get some help from the boy. To get in this situation was not a smart thing to do, and i believe Pam understands that now. I`m sure she regrets everything. But it has happened - and now her job is to sort things out for herself and for the baby. It would make it a lot easier if someone would give her some support and help, in stead of rude comments.
I`m sure we all agree we`re happy not to be in her shoes right now - so please be nice to this poor girl.
Quoting girleegirl: Quoting maria/mesut:
No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. |
Respect is not a divine right, it is something that is earned and it is difficult to respect anyone who put themselves in this situatuation and that is exactly what happened here...
I remember i told you; 'condom'..but you did not answer me.
This most be the worst thing in your life, to have a baby with a girl you barly know
Is there no responsiblity on her part just because she said the word condom but he didn't answer??? And how about having sex with someone you barely know??
Women need to accept responsiblity for what happens to them in these situations. When they do, they earn my respect.
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:24 pm |
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Quoting girleegirl: Quoting maria/mesut:
No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. |
Respect is not a divine right, it is something that is earned and it is difficult to respect anyone who put themselves in this situatuation and that is exactly what happened here...
I remember i told you; 'condom'..but you did not answer me.
This most be the worst thing in your life, to have a baby with a girl you barly know
Is there no responsiblity on her part just because she said the word condom but he didn't answer??? And how about having sex with someone you barely know??
Women need to accept responsiblity for what happens to them in these situations. When they do, they earn my respect.
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TOTALLY agree Girleegirl - very well expressed. May I also add that if you have sex with someone you don't know and DON'T use a condom, not only are you risking pregnancy but some very nasty diseases (which are on the increase now) - particularly when you have sex with someone who has casual sex on a regular basis.....
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:28 pm |
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not only are you risking pregnancy but some very nasty diseases (which are on the increase now) - particularly when you have sex with someone who has casual sex on a regular basis..... |
Very true- unfortunately. Don`t lose your head in situations like that. It can be something you`ll regret forever. (I`m not talking from my own experiences though  )
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:32 pm |
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Quoting maria/mesut:
I`m sure we all agree we`re happy not to be in her shoes right now - so please be nice to this poor girl.
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All nice and well, but I for one, would never end up in such a situation (one in which I willingly had sex, that is).
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:32 pm |
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Quoting AEnigma III: Quoting girleegirl: Quoting maria/mesut:
No matter how many times you`ve seen this happen, or how tired you are of it - you treat people with respect. |
Respect is not a divine right, it is something that is earned and it is difficult to respect anyone who put themselves in this situatuation and that is exactly what happened here...
I remember i told you; 'condom'..but you did not answer me.
This most be the worst thing in your life, to have a baby with a girl you barly know
Is there no responsiblity on her part just because she said the word condom but he didn't answer??? And how about having sex with someone you barely know??
Women need to accept responsiblity for what happens to them in these situations. When they do, they earn my respect.
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TOTALLY agree Girleegirl - very well expressed. May I also add that if you have sex with someone you don't know and DON'T use a condom, not only are you risking pregnancy but some very nasty diseases (which are on the increase now) - particularly when you have sex with someone who has casual sex on a regular basis..... |
i agree with u all, people had invented the birth control many years ago,before they went to the moon
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15 Sep 2007 Sat 08:33 pm |
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I agree with you here
Quoting Deli_kizin: Quoting maria/mesut:
I`m sure we all agree we`re happy not to be in her shoes right now - so please be nice to this poor girl.
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All nice and well, but I for one, would never end up in such a situation (one in which I willingly had sex, that is). |
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