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Thread: HOLOCAUST

361.       vineyards
1954 posts
 25 Jul 2010 Sun 12:54 pm

I guess this is an equivocal statement.

Barba_Mama is a Dutch citizen and she is one of the valuable contributors of this site. I can´t understand the reason of this recent anti-Dutch sentiment. I can understand the difference in mind sets which lead to different interpretations of certain matters. Why do we take the time and post here? We are seeking to understand one another and to converge as much as possible.

Quoting AlphaF

 

Well, it was not exactly your fault - is it ?.....you need not be over ashamed of being Dutch ! {#emotions_dlg.head_bang}

 

 

 



Thread: What is your mood today?

362.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Jul 2010 Sat 12:56 am

Good. Yours is a senior cat now. They tend to develop health problems and need very close attention including the choice of catfoot, hygene of the litter box. We´ve recently lost an 11 year old cat. He had the cancer. My other cat which is about the smae age is sick with feline AIDS. So, we don´t let it leave the house. His immune system is very fragile. I carried him to the vet every single day for more than a month for injections. It is OK now but who knows what future holds for him.

Quoting libralady

 

 

 Thanks Vineyards, He turned up this morning like a bad penny!  I think he is sick of the tablets, the cat box, the vets, the jabs, the blood taken and decided to hide from me {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} He is 12 btw and has hyperthyroidism {#emotions_dlg.unsure} and is skin and bone.........

 

 



Thread: What is the best turkish names ?

363.       vineyards
1954 posts
 24 Jul 2010 Sat 12:48 am

Natasha was formerly an American fantasy. It was the name of the sexy Russian spy of adventure books. Natasha was almost synonymous with the cold, exotic and dangerous but equally desirable female character. Today there are companies promoting Russian brides seeking American husbands; so, there is no need anymore for the book.

Quoting barba_mama

I think Ada is a good Turkish name to go "international"... if you have international plans for your kid, it might be wise not to give it a name with ç or other "turkish" letters that don´t work well abroad. I guess nowadays you have to keep in mind also what names mean abroad. One of my cousin´s called her daughter Natasja... I think she might get some strange looks if she ever goes to Turkey...

 

 



Thread: HOLOCAUST

364.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 10:01 pm

Barba_Mama why are you trying your best not to understand me:

I say there is suspicion over ..... I have never said there is the proof of. Powell made people believe that there was proof on file whereas all he had was mere unsubstantiated suspicion. He and the majority of the executionary body in the US took action based on that suspicion acting as if and officially declaring that they had convincing evidence.

I repeat what I said, there is a suspicion at present. I am not in favour of taking action based on that suspicion. I just gave those examples to show how other people use mere suspicion as a basis for such large scale military interventions.

You and thehandsom will eventually make me mad. Try to focus on the meaning of suspicion. Don´t you ever become suspicious of people or institutions? Do you trust people unconditionally? Aren´t we a bit picky when it comes to whom we should trust? Do we need hard proof for becoming suspicious of someone? Don´t we look for signs or clues and lose confidence on seeing even the traces of improper trait?

I am suspicious because I have something to lose. I am directly affected by the lack of security in this country. I have a right to become suspicious and take action to protect myself in the face of mounting suspicion? I start by establishing parallelisms and investigating them. My suspicion can be pointless but I had better be safe than sorry.

The other party (Israel) has been canceling touristic tours, hostile statements targeting the leaders of the two countries come one after another. That shows they are suspicious of Turkey or its leadership too. They have even officially declared this if my memory is not fooling me. 

There is a perfect climate fostering susipicions and feelings of waryness.

Quoting barba_mama

To Vineyards. what you say about America is what I see happening here with the PKK/Israel thing. I remember the "proof" that Powell gave for the weapons in Iraq. He had a very vague Powerpoint presentation, that showed weapons of mass distruction. Only, the weapons where two black dots!{#emotions_dlg.wtf} How is that proof? It wasn´t clear at all that they were weapons, but Powell can talk so well. He backed up this wonnnnnderfulll map with statements that he had "secret documents" that ofcourse, he couldn´t share with us, because they were secret, that would actually proof the existence of the weapons. Reminds me of the vague statements made on here sometimes

 

 



Edited (7/23/2010) by vineyards



Thread: HOLOCAUST

365.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 02:26 pm

America invaded Iraq after making everyone believe that Iraq has chemical weapons in their arsenal. You know what happened later on. There are indeed fabricated news making the headlines, at least one of the major players must now be considered as a proven fabricator... Need I say more?



Thread: HOLOCAUST

366.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 01:26 pm

I am sorry I misunderstood you. You are doing this to set a new Guiness world record as the thickest person on the planet. Wow, man, I can post you a few more difficult texts to make your reactions look real.

Quoting thehandsom

 

 

The logic here is : "Isreal´s cruelty is indexed to my "fantasies", if you are not accepting my fantasies then you are a supporter of Israel and her actions". lol lol 

Do you have more of this? {#emotions_dlg.lol_fast} 

 

 



Thread: HOLOCAUST

367.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 01:18 pm

Barba and thehandsom. I suggest that you should go and get a dictionary to look up the exact meaning of suspicion and explain to me the role of suspicion in the US invasion of Iraq and the execution of their legitimate leader.

Legally, politically and military wise, suspicion is a step towards subsequent procedural actions. The police may apprehend you on the basis of suspicion, a judge may arrest you on the same ground. Although your verdict is not given, you may have a hard time trying to defend yourself. All of this may happen to you on the ground of mere suspicion.

Likewise governments tend to keep vital information confidential. Other governments may become suspicious of them and ask for an explanation. The West is currently suspicious of Iran´s nuclear program although the latter repeatedly wowed that they are seeking to use that technology for non-military purposes. Turkey and Brazil acted as moderator and persuaded Iran to deliver their uranium in exchange of nuclear power plant grade uranium. The aforementioned parties considered this as a confidence boosting step but guess what the West would not be satisfied and put pressure on the moderators instead. Iran is being threatened by military action and what is the reason here: suspicion. Has it been substantiated? No it is mere suspicion. Probably, much the same as the unsubstantiated suspicion over Iraq.

Well, my wise guys, now answer my question. All the civilized world can capitalize on their suspicions killing tens of thousands of people if need be but I can not link actions together and develop a suspicion.

 

 



Edited (7/23/2010) by vineyards



Thread: What are you listening now?

368.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 03:04 am

I often stay up till the morning usually working on something.



Thread: t to e

369.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 03:01 am

There is no compulsion in religion. Man is free without doubt... He is free to get burned either in this world or in afterlife.

get burned could also be understood as mature, or to gain experience.

Quoting ayse-eski

Dinde Zorlama Yoktur, İnsan Hürdür Elbette..İster Dünyada Pişer, İster Ahirette..!! 

 

 



Edited (7/23/2010) by vineyards



Thread: What is the best turkish names ?

370.       vineyards
1954 posts
 23 Jul 2010 Fri 02:57 am

 Do you have proof for this?

Quoting barba_mama

Nobody said Ada in Turkish was related to other Ada´s  People just mentioned that it was a name present in different cultures and languages as well. And in Dutch the name is pronounced the same as in Turkish, even though it has nothing to do with islands over here (I have no idea what the uh du thing was about {#emotions_dlg.think})

 

 



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