Barba_Mama why are you trying your best not to understand me:
I say there is suspicion over ..... I have never said there is the proof of. Powell made people believe that there was proof on file whereas all he had was mere unsubstantiated suspicion. He and the majority of the executionary body in the US took action based on that suspicion acting as if and officially declaring that they had convincing evidence.
I repeat what I said, there is a suspicion at present. I am not in favour of taking action based on that suspicion. I just gave those examples to show how other people use mere suspicion as a basis for such large scale military interventions.
You and thehandsom will eventually make me mad. Try to focus on the meaning of suspicion. Don´t you ever become suspicious of people or institutions? Do you trust people unconditionally? Aren´t we a bit picky when it comes to whom we should trust? Do we need hard proof for becoming suspicious of someone? Don´t we look for signs or clues and lose confidence on seeing even the traces of improper trait?
I am suspicious because I have something to lose. I am directly affected by the lack of security in this country. I have a right to become suspicious and take action to protect myself in the face of mounting suspicion? I start by establishing parallelisms and investigating them. My suspicion can be pointless but I had better be safe than sorry.
The other party (Israel) has been canceling touristic tours, hostile statements targeting the leaders of the two countries come one after another. That shows they are suspicious of Turkey or its leadership too. They have even officially declared this if my memory is not fooling me.
There is a perfect climate fostering susipicions and feelings of waryness.
To Vineyards. what you say about America is what I see happening here with the PKK/Israel thing. I remember the "proof" that Powell gave for the weapons in Iraq. He had a very vague Powerpoint presentation, that showed weapons of mass distruction. Only, the weapons where two black dots! How is that proof? It wasn´t clear at all that they were weapons, but Powell can talk so well. He backed up this wonnnnnderfulll map with statements that he had "secret documents" that ofcourse, he couldn´t share with us, because they were secret, that would actually proof the existence of the weapons. Reminds me of the vague statements made on here sometimes
Edited (7/23/2010) by vineyards
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