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Thread: Destina Translation

441.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Jun 2010 Sun 11:51 pm

It is just a personal opinion. The lyrics were written by Lale Müldür who seems to have a good following. Here is the wiki link:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lale_M%C3%BCld%C3%BCr

 

 

 

 



Thread: Destina Translation

442.       vineyards
1954 posts
 27 Jun 2010 Sun 09:41 pm

Last night, while you were asleep
I whispered your name
and told you the awful stories
of animals


Last night, when you were asleep
I watered my flowers
and I told them the awful stories
of man

Last night when you were asleep
my heart set a bond with you
and this being the reason
I gave a new name to you

Destina

With you sleeping in one corner helplessly
one step closer to death than life
Shattered and downtrodden, Destina
I will reveal to you all my secrets

 

This is just badly written lyrics with some inconsistencies. Direct translation would expose them.

The music is good though.

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Thread: ISTERSEN HIÇ BASLAMASIN -Murathan Mungan -Let it be a non starter

443.       vineyards
1954 posts
 26 Jun 2010 Sat 03:44 am

Here is my try. A bit more liberal with the wording but less precise.

 

Let´s not start this love

and leave this story incomplete

love can´t be built upon wounds

 

 and we are too late for each other

 

A shattered childhood

sums it all for me

no matter how many loves haunt my heart

they just can´t cure the wreck within

 

Let´s not start this love

and leave this story incomplete

We took shelter in the wrong harbours

Now, there is no way back to our younger days

Let´s not start this love

Let´s promise each other

 



Edited (6/26/2010) by vineyards
Edited (6/26/2010) by vineyards [funny editor response]
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Thread: Something I must get off my chest!

444.       vineyards
1954 posts
 19 Jun 2010 Sat 02:05 am

Some linguists believe there is a language acquisition mechanism that is only active in early childhood. The language you learn in childhood is your native one. Bilingualism is an exception of couse, scientists talk about a dominant language, it is supposed to be the one in which we make calculations etc.

 

As far as I know, no language teaching program sets such a challenging target as "being able to speak like a native speaker." Unless you are planning to work as a spy, this would not be very necessary. They say anyone spending 7 active years in a foreign country could have a native like command of the language spoken in that country.

 

The phonetic aspects of a language pose one of the biggest challenges for learners. Nevertheless, it is perfectly possible for someone to study and learn a language on a discourse level far exceeding the average. This brings us back to Joseph Conrad the Polish captain who wrote one of the most sophisticated novels of the English language although his native language was Polish.



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Thread: Youtube again

445.       vineyards
1954 posts
 18 Jun 2010 Fri 08:25 pm

Excuse me for the misunderstanding. The wording suggested that.



Thread: Youtube again

446.       vineyards
1954 posts
 17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:43 pm

 

Quoting Loveprague

Hi there,

           I live in Turkey and the best way to access youtube here is to change your I.P. address to a reliable country that is not having restriction problems.  It is quite easy to do try England as your country good luck!

 

Loveprague, so you think Turkey is not a reliable country... It is a little backward should we say? It is certainly bad, isn´t it? Not quite on a par with some of those "reliable" countries. Wow, what can I say, welcome to our country.



Thread: Metro Bus travel Istanbul

447.       vineyards
1954 posts
 17 Jun 2010 Thu 11:44 am

Loveprague,

You certainly have a point; we can´t claim people with disabilities are offered decent solutions throughout the country. Nonetheless, some of the facilities you mentioned such as specially designed cars for disabled people also exist in Turkey. The government offers considerable financial support to make them more affordable.

 

As for the subway station at Mecidiyeköy, check out the link (Turkish) below, there it says disabled people are provided with an exclusive entry complete with a dedicated lift and other aids.

 

http://www.istanbul-ulasim.com.tr/default.asp?menu_id=4&sayfa_id=3

 

Large scale projects like this one go through many stages of approval. Therefore, such obvious requirements can hardly be neglected. There are top notch companies routinely involving in massive constructions. I would be surprized if anyone could spot a mistake or an omission after having walked through it just a couple of times. Tens of thousands of trained eyes must have done this before us.

 

I can´t be in your shoes of course but I would consider stopping a taxi before targeting the entire subway system. 



Edited (6/17/2010) by vineyards [Taksim, Mecidiyeköy confusion...]



Thread: Pınar is gone

448.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Jun 2010 Tue 12:32 pm

I am sorry for the loss of an innocent woman. I am not very good at offering condolences nor do I expect people to share my own pain. There is one real suffering here, it is the pain borne by the family and close friends. Everyone else should at least try to be respectful. There is no way we can truly share their pain. We can not make up for the grief that will probably last a life time by uttering a few smart words.

 

There is a certain group of people who call themselves social democrats, socialist or the like. There is no doubt these people are fond of reading, writing and talking. The problem is they read books that put them in a perpetual vicious circle. The more they read the more isolated their brains become. This cycle turns them into individuals unable to feel, think or desire anything that conflicts with the train of thought they are fed.

 

Their philosophers have provided them with an oversimplified understanding of life and the world. The friends and foes are strictly classified. Canned statements about select political arguments are also provided. So, whoever talks about a certain matter he says exactly the same thing about it. This is more like a primary school setting; if you follow some basic rules you stay out of harm´s way.

 

This mechanism makes you virtually bullet proof. Most often criticized aspects of the ideology are protected by sacred verses written by Marx or Engels. The more you know about them the more sophisticated you appear. No body questions whether there is life beyond the ideology. Thanks to the colored books they read, the world is so simple, people are so straigthforward and nothing can go wrong in it. Voila! 



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Thread: Polish Day In Istanbul

449.       vineyards
1954 posts
 15 Jun 2010 Tue 01:24 am

No. My son liked the entertainment. He clapped his hands and danced to the Polish tunes.

There is a village in Istanbul called Polonezköy meaning the Polish village. The descendants of some 15 families whose ancestors fled to Turkey while being deported to Syberia in 1845 built this village. It has lately become a fashionable escapade for Turks who are curious about the Polish culture and folklore. We were lucky that our visit coincided with the annual celebrations. We watched the dances staged by locals in their traditional costumes. The village is surrounded by vast forests and is very green.

 

These Polish folks have preserved their language, religion and other cultural assets. They have a problem finding spouses to marry. They say, they either marry with Poles from the homeland or occassionally with Turks. While they are fluent in both languages, I have been told, their Polish spouses consider them more Turkish than Polish. They tend to consider themselves a bit more Polish than Turkish. While speaking to one of them, I used the word, abnormal which they consented and we agreed on "exceptional" would be a better alternative.

 

I´ve also learned from them that in Poland, daughters are the favorite members of their families. One of them told me, that would be just the other way around in Turkey. They think this point makes it difficult for the Poles of Turkey to be in good terms with their Polish wives. I´ve learned this and many other trivia about the lives of this people.



Thread: Polish Day In Istanbul

450.       vineyards
1954 posts
 14 Jun 2010 Mon 07:04 pm



Edited (6/14/2010) by vineyards
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