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Quoting Aysenur: We should make a difference between ataturk and Islam.
If you follow ataturk I respect you but if you follow islam you will agree that this case is not correct. This is a personal decision. |
Sorry i cant understand you here, what do you mean to say? Can you expatiate? Do you want to say that people are irreligious if they are being ruled by the laws of Kemal Atatürk? Or do you want to say their religion is Kemalism, something like that? If that is the case, i kindly advise you to read Kuran.
Quoting Aysenur: The best muslim country was at the time of our beloved prophet (SAW). |
Exactly!!! But were there sects at time of prophet? Then why we have sects today, and why each sect divided into thousands of cults? What are their problems? Which one is teaching true Islam?You cannot answer them easily, because everybody thinks differently, and also free to think, so unfortunately you cannot/wont find best muslim country today and in future (Allah knows best) because each one will force you to direct with its own teachings, freedom?No.Thats why(one of the reason) Kemal Atatürk forbid all cults. Because cult leaders can direct illiterate people using religion according to their belief of Islam but if it is not true Islam teaching then what happens? I remind you the “suicide bombers†as an example of todays who are brainwashed by cults, thinks that they will be martyrs and go to heaven directly. Besides are you offended when people call Islam is a terrorism or heaven as a brothel with 72 houris? For myself i am very offended, but most of the people who is not muslim thinks exactly like this. Do you know why?One important reason(branch) of these is the cults of Islam which have got false teachings and who call theirselves muslim.
And in other subject, imo, anyone can wear anything that he/she wants, anyone can wear Hijab, “çarşafâ€, or scarf, anyone can wear mini skirts or even underpants only, if you put all laws aside until it restricts other people’s freedom or moral rules of that society or other people’s belief, so we have laws then we cannot put laws aside.You cannot make people have same mind and thoughts. Everybody can believe whatever they want until it restricts other people’s beliefs. For instance a conservative christian teacher say in US teaching in high school but does not want students who have different religions in class, will US government give this right to her/him due to her/his personal liberty? But sure that teacher has rights not to teach, she/he can choose not to teach. Or suppose a male doctor who does not want to look after female patient because of his beliefs or a female working in tax office who rejects to talk to a man and rejects to do the job of a man because of her beliefs etc. Sure all have rights not to do but how can you surmount them?The answer is laws surely, you cannot always satisfy everybody but this does not mean they dont follow laws, exactly they have choice to not follow the laws but then they surely abide the sanctions of that society. And in Türkiye anyone can wear anything according to moral rules of society except public area which is stated by laws.
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Yes same as Gs has players like H.ŞÃ¼kür, E.Penbe etc, also Hagi was the same. Im sure you are Gs supporter, because only Gs supporters acting like you nowadays abour the transfer of R.Carlos :
: Dont be jealous man, and accept this is a big transfer for Türkiye. Am i correct are you Gs fan?