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Thread: 'Anatolian women''

1401.       armegon
1872 posts
 03 Jun 2007 Sun 04:38 pm

Quoting leander:

I've also been wondering why those spammers never get any warnings.
What they do is simply spamming the board and using it for political propaganda.
Its not like someone sends one or tow articles on subjects they are interested in and want to discuss about.They just spamm the board away with dosens of pro AKP anti turkish state articles taken from the SAME islamist sourceses (like yenizamanan.com) and they always have the EXACT SAME mesage.I get the feeling that they get paid by either AKP or Fettullah Hoca.

I don't know if you noticed but some of them never even bother to construct a single sentence by themselves let alone commenting on ANY of those articles or anything else on this board.They just post zillions of articles and run away.One would think they would at least do it on News and Articles section but to get more attention they post them on other more popular sections like Turkey or Off-Topic.If THATS not spam , i don't know what qualifies as spam.
When is this going to stop? Or are we supposed to spam the place with tons of contra articles too?



Selam leander

i suppose people and admins like to read discussions about political propaganda maybe , all i want to say is nevermind, write your comments and criticisms only, besides i like your way of using language, i think you should contribute more if you have time, i love to read your posts. As for the subject they are being paid, i dont think so because there are not many Turkish people here but im sure they are paying other people you know elections are coming . And i think no need to post contra articles, as for me i prefer to write my own opinions. In others i completely agree with you. Neyse i do not want to start a new debate..

Best wishes



Thread: Please translate English to Turkish

1402.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:16 pm

Quoting uncharee:

At here I feel so lonely, I want to come back our house as soo as it's possible. Hoping everyday and everynight pass quickly. This week my sister return to Bangkok already. I live here alone. I always have meal alone. Eveytimes of my meal, I always think of you, mom. I want all of my meal at here is from your hand.



Burada kendimi yalnız hissediyorum, evimizemümkün olan en kısa sürede geri dönmek istiyorum. Her günün ve her gecenin çabuk geçmesini umarak. Bu hafta zaten kızkardeşim Bongkok'a dönüyor. Burada yalnız yaşıyorum. Her zaman yemekleri yalnız yiyorum. Her öğünde, her zaman seni düşÃ¼nüyorum. Burada bütün yemekleri senin elinden yemek istiyorum.



Thread: 'Anatolian women''

1403.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:10 pm

Quoting MrX67:

and i think you don't aware of you giving so big harm to people with this worries and selfish democracy opinions,Opposite as your saids you just want democracy for only urself,and you say democracy is exist just how you understood.



Which harm? There, im not talking about democracy maybe you cannot understand, or you do not want to undestand and blaming me. im talking about rules of democracy that are valid in Türkiye now and those are the rules, laws which people like you try to make flexible by saying tolerance…I only want people to obey the rules of Republic, respect to the judgement, isnt that democratic right???Then i became selfish but you are TOLERANT and democratic however you dont like the rules(because you are tolerant???) according to your view of democracy, and saying tolarence what a contrast is this…

Quoting leander:

Really? Where were you when AKP propagandists spam the board with zillions of anti-state, anti secular articles and irrelevant AKP eulogies on Turkey section back to back, taken from the same islamist source?



That is true, when i first joined to TC, i sent a letter to admin about one of these AKP propagandist article reminding admin the forum rule number 10…But i realised that nothing would have happened and i got no answer to my letter, so i began to write under these topics about politics.



Thread: eng-tr

1404.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 04:03 pm

Quoting ambertje:

We will be going to the theater this afternoon. After that we will be going the restaurant for dinner. My parents are taking us because of their 30 years of marriage. I will be home around 21.00.


First 2 lines, my attempt:Bu ogleden sonra tiyatroya gelecegiz. Ondan sonra aksam yemegi icin restorana gelecegiz.

More I don't know. Can someone help me?



Bu öğleden sonra tiyatroya gideceğiz. Ondan sonra akşam yemeği için restorana gideceğiz. Ebeveynlerim beni alacaklar çünkü onların 30. evlilik yılı(yıldönümü). Saat 9 gibi evde olacağım.



Thread: AMERICAN NATIVES

1405.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 09:14 am

Quote:

Quoting Me:


My point is traveling to or talking with god is an important point in all religions, therefore it may not be a good basis to base a study.


Miraç ?

Quoting Armegon:

If you look at these events through Quranic window, you can see these are impossible. Quran does not mention anything about the travel to God. Actually according to the view of Quran no vision can grasp Allah. But other religions or historical writings possibly mentions.


Also Jesus is not dead, he is waiting in the heaven with God for the day of his return.
And Moses talked to God in person on a mountain that I couldn't remember now.
I meant the similarities between nowadays and ancient religions. And again no offense on any religion.



I said Quranic, you cant find a verse mentioning Mirac in Quran and traveling Muhammed to God or seeing God... I said vision of God... Also according to Quran Jesus is dead also...
I think this topic will return into religionic debate...



Thread: AMERICAN NATIVES

1406.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 07:28 am

It is true that every culture had been affected from eachother. As a religionic concept human being all came from Adam and Eve so we can say there was only one language and religion at first. Can we know what language was that? No. And we can see lots of similarities in religions throughout the history. For example you can see similar stories in Sumers like Noah flood or you can see similar trinity concept in ancient religions as we know one of the Gospel writer Pavlus was also a pagan at first or you can see lots of similarities between ancient Egyptian religion and ancient any other religion etc. So In religionic concept one can interpret SFS’s idea like; maybe this only shows that God always sent messengers to the people(civilisations) and people corrupted the God’s religion so God continued to send messengers till Muhammed(view of a muslim maybe). But you only see many similarities between ancient Turanian religion and CULTURE(mixture of them) and religion and the CULTURE of American Natives rather than other cultures or religions such as Buddism, Hinduism,Zoroastrism etc(Again in view of Islam all of them are corrupted religions but all of them from same God, but the culture of civilisations were different , sure they have to be some common things.). So surely every culture maybe had taken some things from other cultures and every culture evolves but this does not mean cultures change into another culture if there is not an assimilation.

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

Greeks were traveling to Hades, and other religions were traveling to their gods, in Islam Mohamed had a travel to God, Moses and Jesus traveled to or talked with God, still in Christianity Fathers are the link between God and human beings, they can talk with God.(Correct me if I am wrong here, and I don't want to start a discussion about religions, in the way of which one is right or which one is wrong.)



If you look at these events through Quranic window, you can see these are impossible. Quran does not mention anything about the travel to God. Actually according to the view of Quran no vision can grasp Allah. But other religions or historical writings possibly mentions.

Quoting SunFlowerSeed:

In the light of above explanations(IMHO), If I follow the hypothesis, I may say that we(Turks) started at Africa -> Mesopotamia -> Asia -> America.
But, what I believe is there is not enough proof to prove that American Natives are Turks. There are so many similarities around the world preventing us to find SAMENESS between both cultures.



Supposedly you contradict yourself here, you say people started at Africa(you have enough proof for these ?? Genetics??) but you say there is not enough proof that American Natives are Turks(remember Genetics??). Also You cannot know hows the continents at the beginning.



Thread: 'Anatolian women''

1407.       armegon
1872 posts
 02 Jun 2007 Sat 07:15 am

Quoting MrX67:

i didn't say that i'm only arkadaş,but thats such a big paradox in ur democracy opinions and such an extrem words for defence somethings???


Where is paradox in that? I only give an example with a simile to show there is nowhere endless democracy. But i think you dont like my example, i thought you are as tolerant as Jesus, what a pity i was wrong.

Quoting MrX67:

no worries,if it goes this way they will ask at home even as ssson as.well,sure we all have to observe common rules,especially on public areas and places,and secualrism is the one of strongest balance of all democraices,noone of can't deny that,but as if you don't know and live in our traditions,and as if u r strangers of the people which you born and raised in???



When have you seen people have problems practising religion before in Türkiye even a foreigner? If it is better to pray in schools instead of educating, lets change the schools into madrasah, tekke or whatever…Continue to bomb the basis of Republic by saying “tolarence tolarence” like Papa Hodja in America.

Quoting leander:

It's funny how some islamists who constantly talk about human rights and democracy when it comes to being allowed wearing headscarves in universities, get mad and accuse others of disrespecting the 'culture' when people point out to severe woman rights violations in rural areas or islamist circles.



Well said !! They like democracy and judgement when they give good decisions for them otherwise begin to insult to democracy and judgement.



Thread: 'Anatolian women''

1408.       armegon
1872 posts
 31 May 2007 Thu 07:41 pm

Quoting MrX67:

theres no place for double standard in democracies,u r either democrat or not,how can you force other one to live like you or to think like you,if the people don't give any harm to rules???



Oldu..
In democracy, there is no endless freedom. Suppose a person going to work with a shorts and t-shirt and says this clothing is because of my religion, beliefs, what will you do? How can you surmount of this? Every state or even every company and firm has its own rules about wearing, and you should have to follow those rules, there is nowhere endless freedom. You have to follow the rules if you want to obtain rights.


Quoting MrX67:

news??huh,do you believe all news objective????



The only objective is you here?



Thread: 'Anatolian women''

1409.       armegon
1872 posts
 31 May 2007 Thu 06:32 pm

Quoting aslı:

Konu çok basit . Anadolu da yaşayan müslüman kadınlar, metropollerde yaşayan nereden geldiği belirsiz paralarla crem de la crem yaşamlar süren, hollywood sosyetesinden tek farkları başlarındaki örtü olan müslüman kadınları anlamıyorlar, kendilerinden kabul etmiyorlar. Fonda çalan Sezen Aksu şarkısının anlattığı hayatı yaşayan kadınlar dekolte giyen kadınlarla, parisien marka pantolonlu eşarplı takımlar giyen kadınlar arasında bir fark görmüyorlar. Klipte fon olarak seçlen yeşilli kırmızılı renkler ve temiz kalpli insanların ağzından yapılan yorumlar gerçeği anlatıyor. Hediye paketi gibi süslenip üstüne iki de fiyonk attın mı tamam diyen başÃ¶rtülü kadınlar, eşlerinin makamı aksini söylese de Türkiye' deki inançlı kadınların tamamını temsil etmiyor. Beni hiç etmiyor.



Well said aslı

In comments you can see what the video owner criticizing;

"Anadolu kadınının cefakar, çalışkan, mütevazi müslümanlığını anlatmak istedim. Eleştirdiğim islam modası adı altında, altı kaval üstü şişhane tesettür kıyafetleri. Çünkü, islam akıl, mütevazi nefsi hertürlü gösterişten, kötülüklerden arındırma dinidir. "



Thread: english to turkish, please. Thank you very much.

1410.       armegon
1872 posts
 29 May 2007 Tue 11:25 pm

I have done some corrections on the last sentences.

Quote:


Ya da banka çekini göndericinin adına düzenleyebilirim. Bankanın çeki pound veya lira olarak kabul edip etmeyeceğini tekrar sor. Bunu kabul edip etmeyeceğini sor.



Ya da banka çekini satıcının adına düzenleyebilirim. Tekrardan onun(satıcının) bankasının banka çekini pound veya lira olarak kabul edip etmeyeceğini sor. Ona bunu(çeki) kabul edip etmeyeceğini sor.



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