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Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1001.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:38 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

Actually I don´t understand what problem you have with people being able to share possessions. As for my Turkish friends, I would think university graduates...are educated. 

 

Of course not all Turkish people are as capable, or have the ability or desire to share as others.  To me the ability to share is quite commendable.

 

The problematic thing is not sharing. But what is understood from your first sentences is like they were using your things without asking or forcing you to give your things to them. ( you said that you had to leave your clothes at the place you stayed).



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1002.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:29 pm

 

Quoting femmeous

 

 

education has nothing to do with that. its a matter of culture, mentality or personal habbits (which also refers again to culture)

 

well actually what i meant by education was not only the education in school, but also about the culture.



Thread: turkish to english please

1003.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:26 pm

 

Quoting sonunda

 

 

I´ll let you know when it´s convenient.

 

My try-wait for corrections

 

no need for a correction.

 

( I see that you are very good at translations these days )



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1004.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 10:25 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 Actually Aenigma...a lot of it was in New York, San Francisco, Istanbul and Ankara, Antalya...anyway...your point?{#lang_emotions_unsure}

 

no matter whether they were from south or east, probably they were not so educated



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1005.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 09:44 pm

 

Quoting peacetrain

Quote: dilliduduk

but nobody would take your clothes, or would take anything without asking

I don´t think Alameda said that her things were taken without asking.

I´ve stayed in several houses in Turkey and have never had to share anything from my suitcase, although some young women I was staying with a couple of years ago, were intrigued to know what was in my suitcase and one of the girls took it upon herself to rummage through my things whilst I was looking for something in it.  However, this may not be a Turkish ´thing´ but something individual to that person. 

Where ever I stay one thing is the same.  I am expected to treat their home as my home.  In fact when I go in April one set of friends won´t be there for part of the time,so I will be the house keeper!! 

 

but she just wrote

 

"From what I´ve seen, (and others have told me) Turkish society is pretty communal and what ever is in my suitcase (or closet) is shared.  At first it upset me, but now I´ve gotten used to it and am not so possessive about my "things"."

 

Here I understand that she says Turkish people take her things {#lang_emotions_confused} which is of course not a normal situation.

 

Well, yeah, it is true that people want you to feel like you are home, but is it bad?

 



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1006.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 09:38 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Ouhhhhhhhhh please be my friend!

 

haha OK

But I do only for my friends in Germany, so you should move here first



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1007.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 09:28 pm

 

Quoting *Carla Louise*

I will travel to Turkiye next Saturday, and I need a little advice or tips please. You see, I met my love´s parents and family (I hope this is a good sign for me) last time, and they were so hospitable and caring. His sister gave me a cardigan and her tea set because I loved çay so much. I really want to take some gifts for them this time, but I won´t have chance to go shopping in Turkiye before I meet them again ( I will meet them straight from airport I think).

 

I considered buying some fudge (a sweet treat from south west England) or some kind of confectionary, but I don´t want to appear like I just bought a ´cheap´ gift, although I know nothing extravagant is expected. Ornaments? Accessories? What is best?

 

Any ideas what I could bring? Should I bring them something from England, and if so, what could I take as a gift? Any advice would be lovely.

 

Thank you for reading

 

besides all these discussions, carla, I agree that it is a good idea to bring some local sweets as gift We (Turkish people) love sweets, and we also do take sweets usually as gifts ( I always bring baklava and lokum to my friends ). In addition as mentioned, you can take something that mother can use at home, they love such things (like tea towel or something).

 

Anyway, I am sure whatever you bring, they will be happy

 



Edited (2/24/2009) by dilliduduk [typo]



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1008.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 09:25 pm

 

Quoting TheAenigma

 

 

 Following on from my post... a friend of mine told me recently that he had invited his muslim colleague and his wife for dinner.  The colleague informed my friend that he would not set foot in the house unless it was clear of all alcohol!!! My friend had already decided to serve no wine during the meal, and to ensure the food was suitable, but this was a request too far!!!

 

When do we ever see reciprocation?

 

 

Yes this is not a normal request but how many Muslim people have you seen like that? You cannot blaime eveyone just according to one extreme person.



Thread: Gifts dilemma!

1009.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 09:21 pm

 

Quoting alameda

 

 

 Hi Carla,

 

A lot depends on the family, are they rural or urban? Do the women in the family wear head scarves? You could bring some English tea. When I was in England I found wonderful cream in cans. It was the thickest cream I´ve ever seen, I´m sure they would like that. It´s a good thing I didn´t stay in England too long or I´d have been a real butterball fast! It was sooooo delicious.

 

Fine hand creams and body lotions are welcome. I´ve found some nice unisex creams with things like calendula oils in them. European creams are better than the ones made in the US because of the more stringent EU standards. Fine soap is good in your suitcase, but not given as an "official" gift....I´ve been told it is washing them away....I don´t really know about it, but to be safe, I just put them in my suitcase and share....

 

Something to put in your suitcase that I´ve found there are never enough of are safety pins. You don´t give them as gifts, but having them available for use is welcome.

 

 

First of all, yes the gift may change if the family is rural or urban, but you cannot decide it according to the headscarf! There are also modern Turkish woman with headscarves...

 

Soap as a gift or something that you must take with? I did not understand it completely but there are many nice soaps in Turkey, and Turkish people are much more careful about the hygiene than most of the people I have seen (I have seen many actually).

 

and there are not enough safety pins in Turkey?! Actually there are many everywhere. I thinh the same thing about Germany, I have never seen any safety pins sold around, maybe we just don´t see because we don´t know where they are.

 

 

Quote:

If you will be staying with a family, I´ve found it´s good to fill my suitcase with clothes I am don´t mind sharing and am able leave behind. From what I´ve seen, (and others have told me) Turkish society is pretty communal and what ever is in my suitcase (or closet) is shared.  At first it upset me, but now I´ve gotten used to it and am not so possessive about my "things".

 

And with your idea above I also don´t agree. Maybe that´s what you observed with a Turkish family you visited but nobody would take your clothes, or would take anything without asking {#lang_emotions_confused} It is not a usual thing in Turkey that people use things communal with the people they newly met; I mean sometimes with very close friends you share your clothes for example, but even in this case you ask for permission. I, personally, never have taken anything form a guest; besides, Turkish people really love giving to their guests, not taking.

 

Don´t generalize things with the people you have seen.

 

 



Thread: Sentence Structure

1010.       dilliduduk
1551 posts
 24 Feb 2009 Tue 06:53 pm

btw, what is going on with diseases and diagnosis



Edited (2/24/2009) by dilliduduk



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