i hope you remember me cerys from wales i am so sorry for your loss my heart broke when i found out the bad news about geordie i send my condolences and love to all your family, i still look at his photo everyday and cry. i was planning to come over this summer, now i dont think i can face it, i dont understand how this can happen to such an amazing friend if you ever need to talk i am here take care love always cerys

Umarım beni hatırlarsın. Ben Galler´den Cerys.. Kaybın için çok üzgünüm. Geordie hakkındaki kötü haberleri duyduğumda kalbim burkuldu. Tüm ailene taziyelerimi ve sevgilerimi gönderiyorum. Hala fotoğrafına bakıyorum ve ağlıyorum. Bu yaz gelmeyi planlıyordum ama artık bununla yüzleşebileceğimi sanmıyorum. Bu kadar iyi bir dostun başına bu nasıl gelir anlamıyorum. Eğer konuşmak ihtiyacı duyarsan ben buradayım. Kendine iyi bak. Sevgilerle cerys.

(and next letter please)
i miss you geordie i hope the angels are looking after you in heaven, no one will ever understand the pain i felt after hearing such bad news, you are in my heart forever and always you were a true friend god bless

Geordie seni özlüyorum. Umarım melekler sana cennette bakıyorlardır. Bu kötü haberi duyduğumda hissettiğim acıyı kimse anlayamaz. Sen sonsuza dek benim kalbimdesin ve sen herzaman gerçek bir arkadaştın. Tanrı seni kutsasın.

thank you so much to anyone who can help me with this it means alot

Poor gokuyum, give ear to Niccolo Machiavelli :

"Power is the pivot on which everything hinges.He who has the power is always right; the weaker is always wrong."

And "the weaker" here  is you.

Don´t forget the rules you compare to Nazi Germany are not imposed on anyone. Deciding to join TC, you learn and either accept the rules or you don´t.

And again, Spritzer was deleted not because she didn´t like Elisabeths pictures but because she used personal insults.

Would you like TC admins to allow personal insults on this site? I doubt it...

Gokuyum, I think you can´t see the difference between criticism and personal insults. As a matter of fact, i have no idea what insults Spritzer posted but I trust admins they had basis to terminate her membership.

On this very site we´ve had millions of arguments and nobody has ever been deleted simply because they didn´t agree with someone or because they found somebody´s ideas ridiculous. The only rule is not to insult other members personally.

I believe most members have been warned at least once or had their posts deleted - they had all the right to express their resentment via PM to the admins rather than continuing in public.

If I remember correctly, all personal matters should be dealt with the same way, ie via PMs. If you find somebody´s PMs insulting, you may mark their messages as spam, choose to ignore this person or report the message to the admins.

It has never happened that a person was deleted without warning. However, if despite warnings you continue to behave in a way admins found unruly, then you have to face  consequences. It´s actually quite simple.

I understand you are not happy about your friend having been deleted. As you can see, you´re free to say it in public. You like only those that agree with you - fine. Others, like myself, do not dislike a person only because they disagree. I must say I´ve enjoyed all discussions here and I really appreciate the input of people of other opinions. I might not agree with them, but I still value and like them.

Well you believe whatever you like..

But anybody coming up and saying that "that picture is insulting so it MUST be removed" is WRONG..

You can be Jesus/Mohammed/admin/spritzer/Obama..It does not matter..

It is WRONG..

I know neither of you, never had chance, reason or excuse to cantact you, to follow your posts, to communicate with you. Except, spritzer, that you once involved in my posts and made me angry. And I didn´t follow the recent discussion properly. Whether or not you used a ´foul language´, I will put this aside now. There was something very obvious and clear in your effort - that you seemed (and believed) that you are right - no matter about what. I felt and found in your struggle the fact that you were perhaps unjustly treated, weren´t given chance or opportunity to make your point. That´s why I wanted and decided to help you with a translation that you posted in the translation section.

As for you, gokuyum, in my opinion one should support and second their friend exactly the way you have done for spritzer, if one thinks that their friend is unjustly treated or victim, even though everyone else is against and opposite. Your arguments, claims and aproach to spritzer-subject showed me that you must also be right in whatever you has intended about spritzer.

I do greet both of your struggle and have now sympathy for you both!

I think, this should stop now

It is obvious to everybody that spritzer was WRONG to ask that picture deleted..

She was told she was wrong..She has no right to ask that picture to be deleted...

She got angry when she could not get what she wanted..

She started to use insulting language..she got her replies..she was warned to tone down..

She knew she would be deleted if she did not..

She could have  apologized  and shown grace and toned it down..But she did not..

Her choice!!

We should respect her wish..

 I am not the one throwing stones, gokuyum.

 I guess that won´t be you or I then?