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what is the opinion on this??
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 12:56 pm |
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Quoting KeithL: and what was strange about my description? |
Nothing Keith, maybe I miss-read it  ! I wont be arguing today sorry hehe! 
I am taking the day off - a kind of argue-holiday! It's all peace and love in the Aenigma camp today 
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:08 pm |
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The military is respected by the Turkish for some other reasons; we deem it sacred. However it is an irrefutable fact that the military has an influence on the government.
Unfortunately sometimes some military members deem the respect shown by people on themselves; the stars on their shoulders, and interfere political issues, or some who consider democracy "democracy is really cool when it is for me only" try to make the military interfere politics.
Nobody is happy with such interference except some who want democracy for themselves only. They don't want Turkey to be a more democratic country.
Nevertheless it doesn't make Turkey a military or police state.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:13 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: The military is respected by the Turkish for some other reasons; we deem it sacred. However it is an irrefutable fact that the military has an influence on the government.
Unfortunately sometimes some military members deem the respect shown by people on themselves; the stars on their shoulders, and interfere political issues, or some who consider democracy "democracy is really cool when it is for me only" try to make the military interfere politics.
Nobody is happy with such interference except some who want democracy for themselves only. They don't want Turkey to be a more democratic country.
Nevertheless it doesn't make Turkey a military of police state. |
Thanks for your interesting honest reply qdemir - I am respecting you more each time you write! I have NEVER thought of Turkey as a military or police state, and I am very much regreting my sarcasm to KeithL (which was a joke about his question, NOT about Turkey) because I seem to have opened up a new debate which is unnecessary.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:18 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: The military is respected by the Turkish for some other reasons; we deem it sacred. However it is an irrefutable fact that the military has an influence on the government.
Unfortunately sometimes some military members deem the respect shown by people on themselves; the stars on their shoulders, and interfere political issues, or some who consider democracy "democracy is really cool when it is for me only" try to make the military interfere politics.
Nobody is happy with such interference except some who want democracy for themselves only. They don't want Turkey to be a more democratic country.
Nevertheless it doesn't make Turkey a military or police state. |
Thanks Qdemir for this explanation. And just a question to refresh my history knowledge, there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)? When was that, can you tell me? (And no, I don't want to start a debate, just checking if I paid attention in school).
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:30 pm |
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Quote: there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)? |
There hasn't been such a charge in Turkey.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:43 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Quote: there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)? |
There hasn't been such a charge in Turkey. |
Okay, thanks, I was wrong.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 01:55 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting qdemir: Quote: there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)? |
There hasn't been such a charge in Turkey. |
Okay, thanks, I was wrong. |
I am surprised to read this I seem to recall a military coup in the eighties and have heard reports that there could be military intervention in the near future.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 02:49 pm |
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Quote: there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)?
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Trudy, on reading over your message once more I might have got your question wrong. If you mean the military coup by military in charge, yes,unfortunately we have had such bad expreinces;
on 21th may 196o, 12th march 1971 (a warning was sent to the government in office at the time), 12th september 1980 and the 28th february 1997 (a post-modern type of coup)
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 02:51 pm |
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Quoting qdemir: Quote: there was a time when military was in charge, or am I wrong and confusing with other countries (Portugal and Greece I'm sure of)?
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Trudy, on reading over your message once more I might have got your question wrong. If you mean the military coup by military in charge, yes,unfortunately we have had such bad expreinces;
on 21th may 196o, 12th march (a warning was sent to the government in office at the time), 12th september 1980 and the 28th february 1997 (a post-modern type of coup) |
Thanks Qdemir for this information. I wasn't sleeping all the time in class.... 
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 03:02 pm |
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However, although some soothsayers might think such a coup might happen once more in future, it is just a wishfull thinking. Today Turkey isn't the same Turkey she used to be in the past.
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24 Dec 2006 Sun 03:12 pm |
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I read in a newspaper that there is 50% chance that a military coup will happen in 2007. It didn't state why it should happen and I personally don't think it will either. As qdemir states, Turkey has simply changed.
Any thoughts on this?
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