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The Issue of the Veil
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100.       ciko
784 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:33 pm

Quoting CANLI:



Even if its as you said something for Arab women,can you tell me why Turkish women are wearing it ?
Why Muslim women in Malisya,in İndonisia is wearing it ?
Why some Western women who convert to İslam wear it ?!



i really dont understand why they wear it.. i respect them of course.. but really i find it ridicilous to determine the way you wear on what men feel or think about your appearance! it is about womens right, it is about human rights. you dont want to understand.

101.       alameda
3499 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:34 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting alameda:

One nice example of how this function is controlled are the Catholic Priests who were caught in sex scandals...hmmm



This only proves what a farce all religion is! I have this kind of "tit for tat" argument



That was fast canim....however this issue was not about religion, but biological functions.

102.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:36 pm

Quoting alameda:

That was fast canim....however this issue was not about religion, but biological functions.



It is about religion for as long as Canli says it is written in "the book" ! lol

103.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:38 pm

Quoting ciko:

Quoting CANLI:



Even if its as you said something for Arab women,can you tell me why Turkish women are wearing it ?
Why Muslim women in Malisya,in İndonisia is wearing it ?
Why some Western women who convert to İslam wear it ?!



i really dont understand why they wear it.. i respect them of course.. but really i find it ridicilous to determine the way you wear on what men feel or think about your appearance! it is about womens right, it is about human rights. you dont want to understand.


You also dont want to understand that simple fact.
They wear it because it is an order from ALLAH

ciko,sry,but to the heck with what men feel or think
Do you think all those women who wear it in the whole East,and those who do in West do care about what men feel or think ?
The ones who are almost 60 yrs old living in a Western country and just put it on care about what man feel or think ?!

104.       catwoman
8933 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:40 pm

Quoting alameda:

catwoman, weather you like it or not, we ALL have primitive animal reflexes that are beyond our control. I thought you studied this? My observation in no way implies men are "less then human" in anyway, It does recognize what human is. It does include basic animal responses....

" Erection and ejaculation are physiological responses that may result from mere physical contact or even extreme stress."

Male Rape


I cannot believe that you are actually defending rape! Is this 21st century yet?

alameda... you know, sexuality is made of two things: drive and desire... it´s only the drive that´s predetermined, desire is a psychological, learned function. And then you have the actual ´behavior´, which is an even more complicated thing. You can have drive, but your ´motivation´ part tells you that certain ways of putting this drive into action are unacceptable.
It´s similar as eating - you are hungry and you want to eat. But what you choose to eat, how you get your food... is a whole new issue.

105.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:41 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting alameda:

That was fast canim....however this issue was not about religion, but biological functions.



It is about religion for as long as Canli says it is written in "the book" ! lol


mmmm, İ see you are having a good time here AEnigma
Alameda talking about something and im talking about something.
Dont mix things up
That priest isnt in The Book

106.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:45 pm

Quoting CANLI:

mmmm, İ see you are having a good time here AEnigma
Alameda talking about something and im talking about something.
Dont mix things up
That priest isnt in The Book



No, it is YOU TWO mixing things up. Alameda is defending the veil against Cat´s comments saying that there are perverts in every religion lol lol lol

Of course there are! But sexually abusive priests have nothing to do with the reasons women give for wearing the veil.

107.       CANLI
5084 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:51 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:


Ohhhh Finally !
Good that we reached this point
Alameda saying this...
İm not talking about this,i´ve talked about why i wear it,and that it is an order from ALLAH
As you see those are two different topics

108.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:52 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

But sexually abusive priests have nothing to do with the reasons women give for wearing the veil.



Are you sure about this? Perhaps you have stumbled on to something!!

109.       AEnigmamagnadea
416 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:54 pm

Quoting Elisabeth:

Are you sure about this? Perhaps you have stumbled on to something!!



Hmmmmmm

110.       Elisabeth
5732 posts
 23 Jul 2008 Wed 07:59 pm

Quoting AEnigmamagnadea:

Quoting Elisabeth:

Are you sure about this? Perhaps you have stumbled on to something!!



Hmmmmmm



Perhaps you should start a new thread: Veil...are they following God´s command or hiding from Preists? lol

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