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The Issue of the Veil
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19 Jul 2008 Sat 10:02 pm |
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Quoting teaschip: I guess I don´t understand why a women would wear it as personal choice. Could someone explain this to me, it´s not fashionable and doesn´t look comfortable, so why else would they wear it? Please don´t say out of respect for their husband, again this would conclude control and limited freedom. |
Yes... I would also like to know the answer to this.
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19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:42 pm |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip: I guess I don´t understand why a women would wear it as personal choice. Could someone explain this to me, it´s not fashionable and doesn´t look comfortable, so why else would they wear it? Please don´t say out of respect for their husband, again this would conclude control and limited freedom. |
Yes... I would also like to know the answer to this. |
Well,i think we have answered this question many times ´i did´
Again,
For same reason we fast Ramadan
For same reason,you fast the big fast before Easter
To obay God.
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19 Jul 2008 Sat 11:51 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting catwoman: Quoting teaschip: I guess I don´t understand why a women would wear it as personal choice. Could someone explain this to me, it´s not fashionable and doesn´t look comfortable, so why else would they wear it? Please don´t say out of respect for their husband, again this would conclude control and limited freedom. |
Yes... I would also like to know the answer to this. |
Well,i think we have answered this question many times ´i did´
Again,
For same reason we fast Ramadan
For same reason,you fast the big fast before Easter
To obay God. |
God never told you to wear a veil...
My mom never wears a veil
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 12:06 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
God never told you to wear a veil...
My mom never wears a veil |
Ohhh,dont tell me we are going to discuss this again ! 
Well,nope God ordered us to wear veil
İf your Mom doesnt wear veil,its her choice,my Mom also wasnt wearing veil,also was her choice
But eventually she did .
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 12:10 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting SuiGeneris:
God never told you to wear a veil...
My mom never wears a veil |
Dont tell me we are going to discuss this again !
Well,nope God ordered us to wear veil
İf your Mom doesnt wear veil,its her choice,my Mom also wasnt wearing veil,also was her choice
But eventually she did . |
This is beacuse of your imams regulations... Not because of god told
My uncle is an Imam and highly educated one... wrote books etc... goes to conferences... but his wife doesnt wear a veil... also he is totally against to that...
if you want to wear it... wear...
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 12:19 am |
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Quoting SuiGeneris:
This is beacuse of your imams regulations... Not because of god told
My uncle is an Imam and highly educated one... wrote books etc... goes to conferences... but his wife doesnt wear a veil... also he is totally against to that...
if you want to wear it... wear... |
Well,its not imam,actually its in Qur´an
And its obvious that we dont even need imam to explain it.
So it is because of what ALLAH ordered.
Well,i dont know how to reply this,when you said about your uncle
Mmmm,ok not personal,but you know alcohol is haram,yes ?
We dont have any doubts in this,yes?
The one who drink it,the one who sell it,the one who offer it....ect,and its written in Qur´and very clear too
Yes ?
We also have imam who said its NOT haram to sell alcohol to foreigners !
Would that make it Halal by ALLAH to sell it ?!
Same as hijab,it is in Qur´an,imam or not ´im sry´ its an order even if anyone says its not.
We dont follow what imam says if its not written in Qur´an,as you know what ALLAH says,and Rasul SAV
We have our book Qur´an,we have Sunna ´Rasul orders´
Those are our regulations,not İmams.
So,if its not an order from ALLAH,be sure i wouldnt be wearing it,and so many women here.
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 12:36 am |
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To make things clear,i mean hijab,that is the order from ALLAH
And that is the one written in Qur´an
Not Niqab.
So i agree with Sui on that matter,but what you meant here Sui is Niqap and Burka
Veil is hijab
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 09:54 am |
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Quoting teaschip: I guess I don´t understand why a women would wear it as personal choice. Could someone explain this to me, it´s not fashionable and doesn´t look comfortable, so why else would they wear it? Please don´t say out of respect for their husband, again this would conclude control and limited freedom. |
You never can tell why people decide to choose particular things, for me the decision to cover yourself from head to toe is as weird as piercing your face with 300 face rings or tattooing scales on your cheeks...
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20 Jul 2008 Sun 11:14 am |
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I only have two more piercings to go 
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21 Jul 2008 Mon 04:02 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting SuiGeneris:
This is beacuse of your imams regulations... Not because of god told
My uncle is an Imam and highly educated one... wrote books etc... goes to conferences... but his wife doesnt wear a veil... also he is totally against to that...
if you want to wear it... wear... |
Well,its not imam,actually its in Qur´an
And its obvious that we dont even need imam to explain it.
So it is because of what ALLAH ordered.
Well,i dont know how to reply this,when you said about your uncle
Mmmm,ok not personal,but you know alcohol is haram,yes ?
We dont have any doubts in this,yes?
The one who drink it,the one who sell it,the one who offer it....ect,and its written in Qur´and very clear too
Yes ?
We also have imam who said its NOT haram to sell alcohol to foreigners !
Would that make it Halal by ALLAH to sell it ?!
Same as hijab,it is in Qur´an,imam or not ´im sry´ its an order even if anyone says its not.
We dont follow what imam says if its not written in Qur´an,as you know what ALLAH says,and Rasul SAV
We have our book Qur´an,we have Sunna ´Rasul orders´
Those are our regulations,not İmams.
So,if its not an order from ALLAH,be sure i wouldnt be wearing it,and so many women here. |
+1
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| 30. |
21 Jul 2008 Mon 06:39 pm |
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I just want to clarify something to the people who wonder why Muslims do things like the women wearing hijab. Of course, wearing hijab is not the best appearance of women but according to Muslims, life is a test which is full of temptations and desires that you have to leave some of them (Haram things) for the sake of Allah so that Allah rewards you the Paradise in the next life, so you don´t always have the do the things you want or things that please you whatever the consequences.
And this meaning is stated in Quran in various verses:
What is the life of this world but play and amusement? But best is the home in the hereafter, for those who are righteous. Will ye not then understand? [Sura: 6, Verse: 32].
The (material) things which ye are given are but the conveniences of this life and the glitter thereof; but that which is with Allah is better and more enduring: will ye not then be wise? [Sura: 28, Verse: 60]
O men! Certainly the promise of Allah is true. Let not then this present life deceive you, nor let the Chief Deceiver deceive you about Allah. [Sura: 35, Verse 5]
"O my people! This life of the present is nothing but [temporary] convenience: It is the Hereafter that is the Home that will last. [Sura: 40, Verse: 39]
Know ye [all], that the life of this world is but play and amusement, pomp and mutual boasting and multiplying, [in rivalry] among yourselves, riches and sons. Here is a similitude: How rain and the growth which it brings forth, delight [the hearts of] the tillers; soon it withers; thou wilt see it grow yellow; then it becomes dry and crumbles away. But in the Hereafter is a Penalty severe [for the devotees of wrong]. And Forgiveness from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure (for the devotees of Allah). And what is the life of this world, but goods and chattels of deception? [Sura: 57, Verse: 20].
The likeness of the life of the present is as the rain which We send down from the skies: by its mingling arises the produce of the earth- which provides food for men and animals: (It grows) till the earth is clad with its golden ornaments and is decked out (in beauty): the people to whom it belongs think they have all powers of disposal over it: There reaches it Our command by night or by day, and We make it like a harvest clean-mown, as if it had not flourished only the day before! thus do We explain the Signs in detail for those who reflect. [Sura: 10, Verse: 24]
Set forth to them the similitude of the life of this world: It is like the rain which we send down from the skies: the earth´s vegetation absorbs it, but soon it becomes dry stubble, which the winds do scatter: it is (only) Allah who prevails over all things. [Sura: 18, Verse 45]
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