For once we agree from the beginning, si++. (Usually we agree in the end.) Gender is a very clumsy unit of grammar. It just seems to be so that some languages serve in their sentences more information than is needed while others hardly serve the minimum and you have to guess the rest.

Thank you for the post, Henry. I find tenses one of the most difficult things in Turkish to learn. When I am corrected I just accept it and shake my head. It´s difficult to get to the heart of the problem if you understand what I mean.

But I have learned something, too. What I learned shows in your examples: what is called perfect tense in English is actually present in the Turkish system: Bir yıl Türkçe öğreniyorum. Actually it makes sense as the action takes place as well in the present moment as it did in the past.

There are 23 in this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Turkish_unisex_given_names. It seems a lot to me. But how would I know? Maybe they are from another era or something.

Don´t worry, nifrtity, our teachers are just trying to recall the few English words that they once used to know.

If there were plenty of them, certainly you would remember, scalpel. It would be more serious if this -e had begun to work as a productive derivation suffix. Under foreign pressure vocabulary is the most vulnerable part of language but getting into the grammatical structure is much more difficult, so it seems.

I don´t know if these issues are related or not but I also paid attention to the relatively big amount of unisex given names in Turkish. In my language, I can´t recollect but a couple of names which in principle could be given to both boys and girls and even those two are completely out of fashion.

Certainly lack of gender has nothing to do with the structure of the society. These are just the kind of generalizations that people love to make because they sound so smart.

Gender is a burden of language which really irritates me. It forces the speaker to take a stance on something which is not the issue. Suppose I talk to my doctor in the phone and want to report the discussion in any of these gender languages: I sooner or later have to mention the sex of the doctor. Even if I manage to avoid pronouns, in some languages the verb forms unveil these things. Or if I see my friend´s baby in the vagon dressed in green there is no way not to confess that I can´t remember if it was a girl or boy...the problems are numerous.

Another thing is what has been pulling Turkish language into a greater level of simplicity in this issue and many others. Aren´t there any relics of gender in the history of literary language? Didn´t the Arabs try to import masculine and feminine into Turkish as they brought so many words and even an alien orthography which you later gave up?

Interesting that you say that. The Finnish equivalent for president (or engineer, captain, doctor, even writer) in my opinion still carries the masculine meaning even though young doctors are mostly women and we even have a woman president. At least we more often talk about female writers than male writers.

I have heard opinions where the Finnish lack of gender is connected to the long gone equality between the sexes. The faces change when you add it is not so unique in world languages: it has gone even further in...Turkish.

Lack of gender is one of the features of Turkish language which I feel gratitude for. As I don´t have the distinction of he and she in my native language either, gender is a constant stumbling block for me in every language which pays attention to the detail of the person in question being male or female. I will never really get fluent in it and I got used to these strange looks when I speak like everyone in the room was a man.

There are occasions, though, when there is need to make it clear whether the person we are talking about is a man or a woman.

         erkek çocuk

         kız kardeş

         erkek arkadaş

The other day tunci corrected me when I tried to talk about

         *kadın başkanı > kadın başkan

and it opened my eyes for these other examples. I had always thought of expressions like this is as izafet groups consisting of two nouns but actually they are not. There is no possessive suffix in the governing word. They look like the combination of an adjective attribute and a noun! When I look at the definitions of Turkish noun phrases they remind me of those where the modifier expresses what the noun is made of, like

         demir kapı

         naylon çorap

Maybe telling that the child is a boy or the president is a woman is like telling what he or she is made of. I like the thought. In Finland we have a nursery rhyme which even supports the idea: "Of sugar and cinnamon are small girls made, of snails and tail tips are small boys made."

On the social level these definitions also reflect the sexual roles. We understand that başkan is essentially a male and kadın başkan is a person who has been excused her sex. I guess it is a universal feature that the word referring to masculine is neutral and the word referring to feminine is marked, and it shows in language. Maybe Turkish is an exception, what do you think?

I also miss you so much. I would like to be next to you but on a condition: I would like to stay next to you and not to separate or leave in the morning.

I hate to cause a disappointment but I never play anything. I don´t have that room in my brain. But I often imagine things and write fiction. I guess it is my way of playing.

Ok, I admit, occasionally I can take a couple of rounds of Tetris or Pipe Dream. If it is even called playing.