Twenty sentences...sigh...I shouldn´t post anything at midnight. I hope you have a skin thick enough, scalpel.

What you say is very clear. It seems that as a learner I cannot fully understand what Turkish pronoun dropping leads into and that´s why I interpret sentences incorrectly. The length of this thread shows that the issue of inlayed subject has unconsciously worried me since very early stages of learning. It´s partly because sentences in which personal pronouns are used are so simplified that you can´t use them as a model for sentences with noun subjects in spite of their frequence in use.

Impersonal sentences are another source of confusion:

İsteyen tüm arkadaşların katılmasını rica ederim.

There is ø in the place of the indirect object and the genitive noun is the subject of the passive infinitive. Well, it is not the simplest thing in the world.

What comes to structures with rica etmek we are under the wrong headline. The complement clause is not fully inlayed but it stays as a part of the main clause. If it was and inlayed clause our choise for the subject case would be between nominative and genitive.

All I can do about it is to stop posting but I cannot promise you that.

If from seven different climates seven different species of bees were brought, these seven different bees wandered in seven different flowers and from these seven different flowers produced seven different kinds of honey it couldn´t be as sweet as you are.

What? Now I am all confused. Time out. I will have to do some googleing first thing in the morning. I will bring you twenty incorrect sentences, scalpel.

Oh, I´m sorry. I wonder if anyone can see a thing. (I have posted a lot today, maybe it´s all white in your eyes.)

For you, tunci. I hope it appears this time.

I like your comment, lemon.

There is one thing we all should learn from the Americans. It is positive thinking. Too often we stick into unfair things that happened in the past, things that people say about us or what we think they say about us, into stupid arrogance and jealous thoughts instead of encouraging each other and holding fast to the good things we have. Correct me if I am wrong but I have a feeling Turks are not free of these sins.

Turkey is in a drive now in many fields of life. It neither has to beg for acceptance nor look down to other nations. It’s time to work for economy, good treatment of minorities, regional security, freedom of word and strengthening of democracy. None of these things will ever get ready and done but it’s always possible to take steps to the right direction.

When we don’t see but one solution only it’s called obsession. As individuals we get obsessed with things like money, love and acceptance, honour and revenge. It’s difficult enough for one person to get rid of his fixations but it is a million times harder for a nation. If a whole nation feels insulted, turned back and badly treated it’s difficult to rise up and do big things.

I love Europe and wouldn’t change my red EU passport for anything, not even my old national one. It’s more for historical and cultural reasons than anything else. I personally want to see Turkey as a member of EU because it would make the Union stronger, not only stronger against the rest of the world but better prepared for cooperation. My hope is that the beast of nationalism and fear for different cultures that has recently risen in many European countries would give road to the best European heritage.

Take it as an option. Do your homework, pay attention to the right things. Listen to good advice. Encourage each other for better work. Take good use of your national pride and don’t turn it into negative isolation. The membership may come or new, different opportunities may arise.

Thanks, gokuyum. For once there was punctuation in the text  -  and I ignored it.

But you are right, deli, the use of right and left in language often shows discrimination. In the Islamic culture right is often connected to righteousness (you see, even in English). In the Arabic Qur´an there is talk about ahl-il-yameen (people of the right) and ahl-il-shamaal (people of the left). The Jewish name Benjamin means ´the boy of the right´ etc. In the old days left-handed children were often forced to learn how to act with their right. Partly this is a misunderstanding: in the Islamic sunnah the only thing that you are not allowed to do with your left is eating. But this is how language reflects attitudes.

To be honest, deli, I just bagged the word from an online dictionary because it sounded better than the ones I usually use. Or more laid-back and convincing just like I spoke English all the time.

At least I know that left-footed footballers are valuable. Besides, if you watch TV news about highest education and they show a backgroud image from the polytechnic, all the students there write with their left.