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Buddhist marry Muslim
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05 May 2007 Sat 10:39 pm |
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Quoting cat_leo: This is also another reason why I made point here to women about abusive husbands, not always will the women say anything for fear of their lives. |
Absolutely!!!
There are those who are ok with male dominance and don't experience abuse, those who don't experience abuse, aren't affected by male dominance in daily life and have weird ideologies about it (without understanding what they are really talking about and ruining it for the women who can't speak up for themselves - like mltm), those who wish they could get away but know they can't or are in fear of their lives to do so, and those who are abused and brainwashed so badly that they still think the "deserve" the suffering. It's pathetic.
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05 May 2007 Sat 10:43 pm |
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I don't deny that the numbers are much higher in the muslim countries, but what I want to say is that it's also very frequant in christian countries because you warned the girl who considered converting to İslam and marrying a muslim that it was nearly certain that she would be abused. Marrying a muslim is not a guarantee to be beaten or be seen inferior because in the religion itself domestic violence is not supported. I find you very prejudiced against the muslims and İslam, I doubt that you really know a lot of them personally, catwoman.
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05 May 2007 Sat 10:48 pm |
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Quoting mltm: Marrying a muslim is not a guarantee to be beaten or be seen inferior because in the religion itself domestic violence is not supported. |
If you're a member of the dominant group (a muslim) and don't speak up against the oppression that the dominant group commits, then you are SUPPORTING IT. This is what all muslims do, they are supporting violence and abuse, therefore it essentially is part of islam. Take off your pink glasses (but then again, you accepted your weak nature  ).
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05 May 2007 Sat 10:53 pm |
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mltm
i found catwoman prejudeced to the women discrimination be it in muslim countries or non-muslim.
meanwhile i found you prejudiced to the christian countries.
you re the most interesting case, since your mother is french. how does it look like ? you could share to make it clear to some ppl. of course, its your privacy. i ll respect if you say : NO.
did she conver to islam?
or you may have atheist parents.
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05 May 2007 Sat 11:08 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
therefore it essentially is part of islam. |
Nope! This is not a good reasoning; you can hardly say so.
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05 May 2007 Sat 11:17 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal:
you re the most interesting case, since your mother is french. how does it look like ? you could share to make it clear to some ppl. of course, its your privacy. i ll respect if you say : NO.
did she conver to islam?
or you may have atheist parents.
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Yes, it's a bit personal but let me make it clear. My mother did not convert to İslam because there was no need. My father used to practise it when he was a young man, I don't know since how many years, but he does not believe in religions. I don't know about my mother, she says she is a christian, but I doubt whether she is. As for me, I used to be everything in my mind, because no one forced me to be something, but also I was raised in such a religion free family that I did not dare to be a muslim, and I always thought they would see me less intelligent or they would get worried about me.
Now it has been months that I'm very far away from my family and
I am in the beginner stage of being a muslim, I call myself a muslim.
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05 May 2007 Sat 11:24 pm |
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Quoting catwoman:
If you're a member of the dominant group (a muslim) and don't speak up against the oppression that the dominant group commits, then you are SUPPORTING IT. This is what all muslims do, they are supporting violence and abuse, therefore it essentially is part of islam. Take off your pink glasses (but then again, you accepted your weak nature ). |
I critisize and hate the men who beat their wife, or who are really macho, and you're wrong that in muslim countries, no one does somethnig against it, and you always use "all muslims", it's very weird. Have you lived in a muslim dominant country?
I don't wear pink glasses, and you intentionally want to misunderstand my phrase about "having weaker points". If I explain it, I'm sure you won't understand because you think you're a leopar woman. I think first of all you have to accept that you are a female human.
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05 May 2007 Sat 11:26 pm |
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mltm
thank you for sharing!
that gives some picture.
recently married you are, arent you?  or going to marry?  have i guessed right?
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05 May 2007 Sat 11:40 pm |
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Quoting femme_fatal: mltm
thank you for sharing!
that gives some picture.
recently married you are, arent you? or going to marry? have i guessed right? |
No, you're wrong! But when I moved to a christian dominant country, I realized that I didn't really belong to their culture, and I found out that rather I was closer to so-called muslim culture even if I had never practised it. I wore off my prejudices, I met practising muslim girls, and I let myself be more open to İslam, I found myself defending the muslims since here I see a lot of prejudiced people against Turkey and muslims. I also went out with a real muslim man, I say real because he was not hypocrite or fundamentalist, he was such a modest respectful and pure man, he helped me to wear off my prejudices a lot.
I think we have to find the line between being cautious and being prejudiced.
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06 May 2007 Sun 12:26 am |
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Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Marrying a muslim is not a guarantee to be beaten or be seen inferior because in the religion itself domestic violence is not supported. |
If you're a member of the dominant group (a muslim) and don't speak up against the oppression that the dominant group commits, then you are SUPPORTING IT. This is what all muslims do, they are supporting violence and abuse, therefore it essentially is part of islam. Take off your pink glasses (but then again, you accepted your weak nature ). |
You are not Muslim,you dont live among Muslims,and i doubt that you ever went to a Muslim country,but STİLL,you talk about us as group,as countries,as religion as if you know better.
Muslims say thats not true,it doesnt happen as much as you say,maybe there are people who abuse women,but not all,such as in any groups,but you still dont accept and even you make fun of that !
Ok,Muslim husband beats his wife 3 times a day,after eating same as medicine.
And in national holidays there is an extra time beating to celebrate the occasion.
And the top of course is in Holy occasion,that is the hight season for men,they having it like a party of beating their wives.
And all those Millions of women in the İslamic world are so weak and they cannt do anything about it except accepting the domain male !
Ohhhhh GOD !!!!!!!!
İ cannt believe it!
İf that satisfy you...SO BE İT
Go a head and believe what you want,your mind is set on something and doesnt accept other wise,but as for me as a Muslim,
Who said i have to take anyone approval about the kind of life i live it,who said Muslims have to take western's approval on our lives,our religion ?
Who said we approve to be put in a position that we have to defend ourselves and take your accusations,Western's accusations?
All you know about us is from your Media,and your Media says whatever make it ok for your countries to march in and interfear in others countries afairs.
So if you dont know about us,and you know only what you've been told,its your problem not ours.
İ live my life as i want and also you do so.
And i dont have to defend and say,its not true,we dont live that way,
We wont live as you choose for us to have your approval and you say ,yess,Muslims are modern.
No need to defend what is mine,because im sorry,but its just my business !
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06 May 2007 Sun 12:33 am |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting catwoman: Quoting mltm: Marrying a muslim is not a guarantee to be beaten or be seen inferior because in the religion itself domestic violence is not supported. |
If you're a member of the dominant group (a muslim) and don't speak up against the oppression that the dominant group commits, then you are SUPPORTING IT. This is what all muslims do, they are supporting violence and abuse, therefore it essentially is part of islam. Take off your pink glasses (but then again, you accepted your weak nature ). |
You are not Muslim,you dont live among Muslims,and i doubt that you ever went to a Muslim country,but STİLL,you talk about us as group,as countries,as religion as if you know better.
Muslims say thats not true,it doesnt happen as much as you say,maybe there are people who abuse women,but not all,such as in any groups,but you still dont accept and even you make fun of that !
Ok,Muslim husband beats his wife 3 times a day,after eating same as medicine.
And in national holidays there is an extra time beating to celebrate the occasion.
And the top of course is in Holy occasion,that is the hight season for men,they having it like a party of beating their wives.
And all those Millions of women in the İslamic world are so weak and they cannt do anything about it except accepting the domain male !
Ohhhhh GOD !!!!!!!!
İ cannt believe it!
İf that satisfy you...SO BE İT
Who said i have to take anyone approval about the kind of life i live it,who said Muslims have to take western's approval on our liives,our religion ?
İ live my life as i want and also you do so.
So,no need to defend what is mine,because im sorry,but its just my business ! |
is this true cos if it is i just converted about 1month ago:O is it the biggest mistake of my life???????
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