Welcome
Login:   Pass:     Register - Forgot Password - Resend Activation

Turkish Class Forums / Turkey

Turkey

Add reply to this discussion
Moderators: libralady, sonunda
ANDIMIZ! (Student Vow)
(179 Messages in 18 pages - View all)
<<  ... 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 [15] 16 17 18
140.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 12:45 pm

Quoting janissary:

when USA declares they have many enemies, it s ok for you.



No, it's not. I am against US foreign policy, especially their actions in Iraq. Have I ever written that I support the US aggression?

141.       janissary
0 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 12:47 pm

did I say something for you. I said ppl who dont accept turkey has enemies. they think we imagine enemies I dont know what u think.

142.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 03:00 pm

Some people seem to think that accepting the fact that there exists such a thing as 'over-nationality' in your country, makes you love your country less? I think it makes you love your country more, with all that it has inside..

And for Janis: please don't take such maps seriously It means you take USA's foreign policy very serious I agree with DD, the next president probably wont be that 'obsessed' with the Middle East. At least I really hope so, the west sort of created a chaos in the East decades ago, and now the US claims to try and 'improve' the Middle East, but all they do is selfishly destroy what should be healed

143.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 03:04 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Really, Ataturk was the greatest world leader ever. Extremely brilliant - talking about having a vision and right judgment..



+1


If you ever get the change to go to Ankara, I really suggest (for all members) to go and visit Anıtkabir. It is really very impressive. I got lucky: the father of a friend of ours works for the army, so he could get us a personal guide and a special treatment.

But really. Turkish people sometimes dont seem to know what 'sense and simplicity' is, but Anitkabir is really one of the places that is so silent and undone of all 'over-do', that you realize even more what a great leader he was.

144.       teaschip
3870 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 04:18 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Some people seem to think that accepting the fact that there exists such a thing as 'over-nationality' in your country, makes you love your country less? I think it makes you love your country more, with all that it has inside..

And for Janis: please don't take such maps seriously It means you take USA's foreign policy very serious I agree with DD, the next president probably wont be that 'obsessed' with the Middle East. At least I really hope so, the west sort of created a chaos in the East decades ago, and now the US claims to try and 'improve' the Middle East, but all they do is selfishly destroy what should be healed



I happen to believe it's the other way around.. The Middle East does enough to destroy themselves without the aid of the U.S.

145.       janissary
0 posts
 03 Apr 2008 Thu 04:27 pm

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Quoting catwoman:

Really, Ataturk was the greatest world leader ever. Extremely brilliant - talking about having a vision and right judgment..



+1


If you ever get the change to go to Ankara, I really suggest (for all members) to go and visit Anıtkabir. It is really very impressive. I got lucky: the father of a friend of ours works for the army, so he could get us a personal guide and a special treatment.

But really. Turkish people sometimes dont seem to know what 'sense and simplicity' is, but Anitkabir is really one of the places that is so silent and undone of all 'over-do', that you realize even more what a great leader he was.



sometimes u confuse me, I hope u are ok now or not drunk. Ur posts were a bit different before

about map. I dont take none of them serious. We are turkish youth, we re aware of everything

146.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 01:09 pm

Quoting Daydreamer:


I haven't studied political science, but for all I know, neither the USA nor EU (or, in other words, the bed west) wants to take over Turkey. Why would they? From what I read here, I get the sense that the biggest enemy of Turkey is some of its people who are so full of hate that they see enemies even when there aren't any...



Let's take a look at who is investing heavily in arms. Whose senate passed a defense doctrine even Hitler would not dare to pass in his heyday; who is routinely sending troops oversees.

To cut a long story short, the US, the UK have always been interested in the Middle East. Turkey has links to the region ethnic ties between Kurds and Arabs in this country. Therefore both of the countries are the sides of a nasty games being played behind closed doors.

147.       Daydreamer
3743 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 01:34 pm

I absolutely agree that the Middle East is of great interest to the US. But it doesn't mean US would like to conquer Turkey. Turkey is an ally in NATO and is important for strategic reasons. If US wanted to divide Turkey and give part of it to Kurdistan, Turkey no longer would be an ally and would join anti-US countries and helped to form a strong front against US and EU. US would never risk it.

Politics have nothing to do with likes or dislikes, it is cold calculation of what is more beneficial. And it is more beneficial to the US to keep Turkey on their side.

148.       vineyards
1954 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 01:46 pm

There are no frienships in international politics. Every country must be prepard for the worst. We cannot establish a foreign policy on the assumption that America will always be our friend.

Plus the US is fond of threatening their friends when it thinks that they are not submissive enough. A former US Defense Secretary once said when Turkey did not grant the US the right to use the bases in Turkey to organize the air raids from: Well, we (the US) can be sure that New York and Boston will remain in the US but can Turkey be sure whether Istanbul and Izmir will always be theirs?

149.       teaschip
3870 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 03:16 pm

Quoting vineyards:

There are no frienships in international politics. Every country must be prepard for the worst. We cannot establish a foreign policy on the assumption that America will always be our friend.

Plus the US is fond of threatening their friends when it thinks that they are not submissive enough. A former US Defense Secretary once said when Turkey did not grant the US the right to use the bases in Turkey to organize the air raids from: Well, we (the US) can be sure that New York and Boston will remain in the US but can Turkey be sure whether Istanbul and Izmir will always be theirs?



Interesting then if Turkey was a so called friend they should have had no problem with letting us use your airspace. Then several years later decide to try to reep the benefits and go into Northern Iraq. I'm still not convinced of your governments motive for going into Northern Iraq. Some fear of a new Kurdistan, possibly?

150.       teaschip
3870 posts
 04 Apr 2008 Fri 03:23 pm

Friends don't threaten and humiliate friends. Friends don't take money from other friends and then turn around and act like they don't owe any allegence. Turkey isn't too proud to come begging to the US for money. I recall we forgave a 9 billion dollar debt to Turkey.

So Vineyard please explain friendship then to me?

(179 Messages in 18 pages - View all)
<<  ... 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 [15] 16 17 18
Add reply to this discussion




Turkish Dictionary
Turkish Chat
Open mini chat
New in Forums
24 HOUR FLASH SALE for learning Turkish e-...
qdemir: ...
Grammar Textbook
qdemir: ...
E-T: I see you have done this before?
harp00n: Bunu ... daha önce de ... Bu konuda iyi olduğun ç...
E-T: It´s one of the things on my bu...
denizli: hmmm I ... think there are suffixes ... nor ... But I know wha...
T-E
og2009: ...
T-E
og2009: ...
coronavirus
og2009: ...
OUR FRIENDS
og2009: ...
Coronavirus
harp00n: ...
TLC servers hacked, all user emails & pass...
alerque: This sites entire user database seems to have been hacked, I´m ...
T-E
og2009: ...
Individually Tailored Private Turkish Less...
sumrutemur: Do you want to learn Turkish? Do you want to improve your speaking, wr...
Random Pictures of Turkey
Add thumbnails like this to your site
Most commented