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70.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:07 pm

Quoting Saskia1970:

Are you attacking the feelings of British and Dutch people now? Should they feel insulted?



Are you serious?

I am Dutch and British

71.       Deli_kizin
6376 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:10 pm

Oh about my post: I never meant to say that the ENTİRE British and Dutch population is a racist. I just meant that it is ridiculous to debate where and whether there is racism somewhere or not, because it's everywhere unfortunately.

72.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:22 pm

Quoting catwoman:

Quoting KeithL:

Name one or two for me. I can name many with strong sense of nationalism that are truly independent.
USA
Canada
England
France
Germany
Russia
Japan
China

Of course I have left out some, but these are the obvious that come to mind in just seconds.


What makes these countries great is not their nationalism. Also, what made them great was not their nationalism. And in present day, nationalism in these countries is used to manipulate the masses to allow the governments to carry on their hideous policies.



I did not say nationalism made them great. They are great countries. AND...they are nationalists.

73.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:32 pm

I also will make the comparison that the people in Turkey that protest Andımız, are the same people in America who protest Pledge of Allegiance in school, Christmas Trees and Nativity Scenes.
These people with their communist ideology really bore me...

74.       azade
1606 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:35 pm

What has it got to do with communism?? Individualism and personal freedom would be better choices.

75.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:46 pm

Quoting azade:

What has it got to do with communism?? Individualism and personal freedom would be better choices.


I am really begining to think that we have a mod with fachist ideas.. Because most fascists had this paranoia of 'communism creeping from the opposition'. They somehow think that every critisisim of state are done by communists only..
Well done admins!!

76.       vineyards
1954 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:47 pm

The government cannot transport individualism or personal freedom on trucks. These concepts develop themselves without the direct influence of the government.

Personal freedom or individualism will be just void concepts in a region that do more to maim a country than to contribute to its progress. DTP hails Ocalan as the leader of the Kurds so do the masses in a couple of Eastern province. The party keeps receiving votes of the Kurdish citizens. If Ocalan is their leader, they are not serving this country at all. It is natural that Kurds are disturbed at seeing the symbols of this country. They prefer their own tri-color flag, they have their own leader. All that has to be done is waiting until the day comes.

77.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:49 pm

Quoting azade:

What has it got to do with communism?? Individualism and personal freedom would be better choices.



We have rules in society. And procedures. And traditions. If you don't care to follow them, this is your choice. But insulting others for honoring tradition and rules is subversive.

78.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:51 pm

Quoting thehandsom:


I am really begining to think that we have a mod with fachist ideas.. Because most fascists had this paranoia of 'communism creeping from the opposition'. They somehow think that every critisisim of state are done by communists only..
Well done admins!!



I'm German....it comes honestly enough

79.       thehandsom
7403 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:51 pm

Quoting azade:

+10000000 thehandsom right on spot.

It's horrendous to see "ne mutlu türküm diyene" written on every beautiful mountain in areas populated by kurds. I don't understand how people can be so brainwashed they refuse to acknowledge the truth behind turkish assimilation politics.


Thanks azade..
There are many in Turkey that turkish nationalism is going to cause the split of the country.
Basically with the turkish expression, nationalism in Turkey is 'bolucu' nationalism..
nationalists have no idea that they are helping to divide this country.

80.       KeithL
1455 posts
 01 Apr 2008 Tue 09:53 pm

Quoting thehandsom:

I am really begining to think that we have a mod with fachist ideas.. Because most fascists had this paranoia of 'communism creeping from the opposition'. They somehow think that every critisisim of state are done by communists only..
Well done admins!!



I believe in complete free speech. So if I am a fascist, I am a bad one...

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