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Kicked out of Germany after honour killing
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:17 pm |
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Quoting Queent: The Honor Killing doesn´t belong to Islam. It is just a tradition which has no relation with the religion. |
I agree- however it is a tradition which has remained ONLY in Islamic countries - together with female circumcision.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:25 pm |
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Quoting ciko: well sorry, i cant spend my time arguing with people who does not know about economical role of emigration for developed countries. they first have to look at some books and search about it instead of talking nonsense about such an important subject. |
And that makes us fascists? Maybe you should learn first what fascism means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:33 pm |
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Quoting Trudy:
And that makes us fascists? Maybe you should learn first what fascism means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism |
Alameda is that you?  
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:36 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting ciko: well sorry, i cant spend my time arguing with people who does not know about economical role of emigration for developed countries. they first have to look at some books and search about it instead of talking nonsense about such an important subject. |
And that makes us fascists? Maybe you should learn first what fascism means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism |
well i dont need to look at the link to know what it means trudy. what you and your dear friends wrote in your posts were fascist for me. fascism or such things are relative concepts. not like 2+2=4..anyway i reccomend you to read some books about 60s and 70s economy instead of stupid wikipedia.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:45 pm |
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Quoting ciko: well i dont need to look at the link to know what it means trudy. what you and your dear friends wrote in your posts were fascist for me. fascism or such things are relative concepts. not like 2+2=4..anyway i reccomend you to read some books about 60s and 70s economy instead of stupid wikipedia. |
I still don´t know what is wrong with saying that after a certain time one must and can expect from immigrants that they need to adept at least a little into that new country. If I would come to Turkey, it would be only logical to me that locals would expect (even demand!) that after ten years I speak the language, that I wouldn´t expect everything to be as in my own country. So if anyone can expect that from me, why can´t I do the same otherwise around? And no, I never said that there aren´t immigrants with many difficulties or who face discrimination. I only say that not all do that and that I expect some own responsibility for their own life. If thinking that makes me a fascist, so be it.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:46 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting Trudy:
And that makes us fascists? Maybe you should learn first what fascism means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism |
Alameda is that you? |
Someone who calls me names can expect me to give such an advice.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:48 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting ciko: well i dont need to look at the link to know what it means trudy. what you and your dear friends wrote in your posts were fascist for me. fascism or such things are relative concepts. not like 2+2=4..anyway i reccomend you to read some books about 60s and 70s economy instead of stupid wikipedia. |
I still don´t know what is wrong with saying that after a certain time one must and can expect from immigrants that they need to adept at least a little into that new country. If I would come to Turkey, it would be only logical to me that locals would expect (even demand!) that after ten years I speak the language, that I wouldn´t expect everything to be as in my own country. So if anyone can expect that from me, why can´t I do the same otherwise around? And no, I never said that there aren´t immigrants with many difficulties or who face discrimination. I only say that not all do that and that I expect some own responsibility for their own life. If thinking that makes me a fascist, so be it. |
Believe me Trudy, what you say is very logical. Most people believe this.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:50 pm |
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Quoting teaschip: Believe me Trudy, what you say is very logical. Most people believe this. |
Then god help us! And what right have you to say "what most people believe"?
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:55 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting teaschip: Believe me Trudy, what you say is very logical. Most people believe this. |
Then god help us! And what right have you to say "what most people believe"? |
Wheren´t you the one who said it is ridiculous that expacts don´t speak the local language? Correct me if I´m wrong. And what´s the difference between expecting expacts to adjust (which I support very much) and other immigrants? Is that fascist? Please explain.
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 05:58 pm |
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Quoting AEnigmamagnadea: Quoting teaschip: Believe me Trudy, what you say is very logical. Most people believe this. |
Then god help us! And what right have you to say "what most people believe"? |
The same right you have to call us "fascists". If you really believe that moving to another country and failing to learn their language and adapting to the culture is going to make you successful, well then good luck with that. 
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07 Aug 2008 Thu 06:00 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Wheren´t you the one who said it is ridiculous that expacts don´t speak the local language? Correct me if I´m wrong. And what´s the difference between expecting expacts to adjust (which I support very much) and other immigrants? Is that fascist? Please explain. |
Actually I was saying that it is human nature. Go to any town in any part of the world and you will find it divided into communities of the same nationalities.
I am not saying it is right or wrong – I am saying you can’t criticise one nationality or group, and not another.
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