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Kicked out of Germany after honour killing
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:21 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: that germans hate Turks,even they are people too.
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Some Germans probably hate Turks. Like in every country there are racists. But I don´t think one can say that THE German hate Turks. |
´hate´ is a very strong word like ´love´ and both are very much over used nowdays
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:22 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting gezbelle:
if neither of his parents are german citizens, then it is highly likely that he isn´t a german citizen. |
Even if he was born there ? |
i edited my previous post. it depends on how long his parents have been living in germany. new rules came in 2000.
German Citizenship Reform
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:26 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Well,Trudy,i havent been there to judge,but what i´ve read and what i´ve heard about the Turks stiuation in Germany,can say that we reverse that sentence
Some Germans probably LİKE Turks |
If someone would say the same things about muslims, you would get furious! Why don´t you believe that it´s just a loud mouth minority that makes it difficult for other people?
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:27 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth: Boils my blood to think that this man is only getting 9 years in prison! I can´t imagine the people who are supposed to love and support you the most, would kill you because you were dating a guy before you were divorced. What a bunch of crap! This man needs to be brought to justice by a crowd of angry women!  |
But he didn´t kill his sister, did he? He killed that guy she´d been dating. Not that it makes him less guilty of murder. I don´t think German courts can banish German citizens so most probably that guy didn´t have the citizenship (in most EU countries you can´t get it by birth, otherwise the number of immigrants would exceed the number of EU nationals by far).
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:28 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer: Quoting Elisabeth: Boils my blood to think that this man is only getting 9 years in prison! I can´t imagine the people who are supposed to love and support you the most, would kill you because you were dating a guy before you were divorced. What a bunch of crap! This man needs to be brought to justice by a crowd of angry women! |
But he didn´t kill his sister, did he? He killed that guy she´d been dating. Not that it makes him less guilty of murder. I don´t think German courts can banish German citizens so most probably that guy didn´t have the citizenship (in most EU countries you can´t get it by birth, otherwise the number of immigrants would exceed the number of EU nationals by far). |
I still think he needs angry mob therapy!
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:29 pm |
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Quoting Daydreamer:
I don´t think German courts can banish German citizens so most probably that guy didn´t have the citizenship (in most EU countries you can´t get it by birth, otherwise the number of immigrants would exceed the number of EU nationals by far). |
yeh i´m thinking the guy isn´t a german citizen too, if the courts can banish him elsewhere.
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:30 pm |
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Quoting Elisabeth:
I still think he needs angry mob therapy! |
You´re darn right here!I´m sure Germans in jail will teach him good manners...
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 05:44 pm |
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Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: Well,Trudy,i havent been there to judge,but what i´ve read and what i´ve heard about the Turks stiuation in Germany,can say that we reverse that sentence
Some Germans probably LİKE Turks |
If someone would say the same things about muslims, you would get furious! Why don´t you believe that it´s just a loud mouth minority that makes it difficult for other people? |
 Well,it has nothing to do with Muslims or none Muslims,its just some people stiuation in some country borders
İ dont find the relation between both,come to that the majority of the West world hates Muslims yes ,or let´s say dislike ?!
And as i said,i havent been there,but i´ve heard it,and even here at TLC too
İt has been said from Turks,and if i remember well,ciko was also one of them talked about relative of his went there,or live there i dont remember well
And havent heard other wise from any German,or any Turk
So,where is my fault here in your opinion that would make others get furious?!
İ have stated and judged from what i heard and read,and that what i also said
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 06:21 pm |
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Quoting CANLI: Quoting Trudy: Quoting CANLI: Well,Trudy,i havent been there to judge,but what i´ve read and what i´ve heard about the Turks stiuation in Germany,can say that we reverse that sentence
Some Germans probably LİKE Turks |
If someone would say the same things about muslims, you would get furious! Why don´t you believe that it´s just a loud mouth minority that makes it difficult for other people? |
Well,it has nothing to do with Muslims or none Muslims,its just some people stiuation in some country borders
İ dont find the relation between both,come to that the majority of the West world hates Muslims yes ,or let´s say dislike ?!
And as i said,i havent been there,but i´ve heard it,and even here at TLC too
İt has been said from Turks,and if i remember well,ciko was also one of them talked about relative of his went there,or live there i dont remember well
And havent heard other wise from any German,or any Turk
So,where is my fault here in your opinion that would make others get furious?!
İ have stated and judged from what i heard and read,and that what i also said
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I have heard Turkish people themselves say that the Turkish folk living in Germany often do not integrate and continue to live more in the way they would do so if they were back in Turkey in their towns and villages. This could be why some Germans are not fond of Turkish people because of a big difference between cultures and a lack of integration.
We live in a world where we are often all guilty of tarnishing everyone with the same brush.
It is the same with foreigners who come to live in Turkey, sometimes they continue to reinact their own traditions sometimes without considering the social and unspoken rules in their new environment, and it creates unease between nationalities.
I believe that the majority of people probably do not hate or dislike Turkish people in Germany. And likewise many Turkish people have good German friends and neighbours there too. The same with Greeks and Turks.
We are often too quick to assume that all Germans/Greeks hates Turks when really it is not the case. Having one or two friends who had a bad experience there cannot really give judgement to an entire nation.
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 06:52 pm |
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Quoting Cacık: We are often too quick to assume that all Germans/Greeks hates Turks when really it is not the case. Having one or two friends who had a bad experience there cannot really give judgement to an entire nation. |
Well said, Cacik! That´s exactly what I meant.
And to Canli: if someone would dare to say that muslims are terrorists because of the attacks in Casablanca, London, Madrid and New York (plus some other events), you - yes you - would get furious and say that not all muslims are like these madmen. And you would be right in that opinion.
Therefor I say, you can´t say that all/most Germans hate/dislike Turks or that all/most Westerners hate/dislike muslims. Yes, there are, I know, also in Germany, also in my country. But to generalise, well THAT makes me at least a little angry because by doing that you´ll diminish the good relations between people of different religion, you degradate the acts of people working and living together.
A view like that sounds to me full of many prejudices.
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06 Aug 2008 Wed 07:10 pm |
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I also think that most Germans do not have anything against any Turkish individuals, but they still may dislike them as a group because of some legitimate reasons, like the fact that Turkish people live in isolated communities, do not integrate, many do not even speak German.
Someone told me a true story: a German person goes into a Turkish store in Germany and the seller did not speak German of course, so he calls someone else and says "hey, a german tourist came". 
I think that some Turkish people in Germany do need to acknowledge the problems in Turkish communities instead of blaming Germans for disliking them, allegedly for no reason. Yes, it is wrong to generalize, but most of these issues are not there out of nowhere.
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