Both ´Veya´ and ´Yada´ mean ´or´.

Can they be used in exactly the same context?

1) Do you want tea or water?

2) Or do you prefer ayran?

well..

But your moderator friend was participating too..

So are you saying your level as a mod is higher than  meltem so you can warn her?

 We were discussing the first part of the topic "LIVING" so we are within the topic...... however, I object strongly to the fact that you objected strongly

well we may object strongly!!

 Is that an order?  By whose authority?

 I dont think that is correct. I have some grammarbooks that are used at turkish universities, and they state otherwise. Furthermore, if you debate that it is not ebil as a suffix but bilmek as the verb being used to describe ´ability´, then consequently ´not being able to´, should also be ´bilmemek´, which is not the case.

Gidebilirim.

Gidebilmem. which is not the case, it is Gidemem.

Gidebilir miyim? Gidemezsin, then should be:

Gidebilir miyim? Gidebilmezsin.

I stand to see ebil-abil as suffixes that are added inside a verb, but for learners it can be easy (and logic) to think of it as just adding the verb bilmek after the verb stam+e/a. But I dont think that is grammatically a correct way of approaching it. Anyway, it is just a matter of ´technicalities´

well, actually it is not "abýl", it is can do, and able to do suffix verb root + bilmek

so it is done like

for example:

al + a (this is to link to verbs) + bilir +im

al + a + bilir + sin

al + a + bilir

al + a + bilir + iz

al + a + bilir + siniz

al + a + bilir +ler

the vowel that links the two verb is according to the phonetics vowel harmony, the rest will always be the same as it is a seperate verb.

when you make it interrogation:

al + a + bilir + mi (inter. suffix) + y (connecting) + im? alabilir miyim?

al + a + bilir + mi + sin?  alabilir misin?

Hi, I am a bit confused, although I have known for a long time that ´adet´ is similar to ´tane´ in its use I have only ever seen adet written in shops and markets and on packaging, I have never actually heard anyone use the word.   However whilst I was staying with some friends one of them used it, and I remarked that I hadn´t heard it used before.   We were at the time playing a game using ´OKAY´ tiles but slightly diferent in its rules.  Later, when we were counting the scores the lady in question said she had scored 5, but as she had five tiles that was imposible as the value of each tile counts.   She then used the word again saying "I thought it was the ´ADET´ that counted, and then said to me, now that is an example of when we cannot say ´TANE´, obviously the conversation was taking place in Turkish, but my friends could not explain to me the ´rule´.

I cannot quite explain it but I feel its possibly something to do with the subject not being spoken ie the amount being more important than the ´thing´.

Completely confused, any help??