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Thread: Vocabulary Test

1341.       erdinc
2151 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 04:32 am

Quoting bod:

The program has now been modified........

From the Main Page there is now a link that displays all the words in both Turkish and English along with the type of word that it is!

Hopefully this will help native speakers ensure that the words that are included are suitable and acceptable



I checked the list here are a few suggestions for corrections and only after the > the correct word is given:

mayve > meyve

açik > açık

kotı > katı

gime > gemi

insan person > insan human

new entry > kişi person

koyu dark > Koyu renk dark color

açık light > açık renk light color

new entry > açık open

bakmak to look at > bakmak to look

sıcak hot > sıcak warm

sevmek to like > sevmek to love

sürmek to drive > araba sürmek to drive

beygir horse > at horse

ensiz narrow > dar narrow

yağ cooking oil > yağ oil

şehir town > şehir city



Thread: Vocabulary Test

1342.       erdinc
2151 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 04:02 am

Quoting Lyndie:

Erdinc has a project, looking for the 1000 most used turkish words. You have a way to go bod! 840 to be precise heheheh Keep up the good work, we certainly all appreciate this great idea of yours and again thanks and again it is very generous of you to share this.



The most common Turkish words project has some outcome already. Admin had written a special program for this project and we have all the Turkish words (around 24.000 ) in a list according the frequency they appear. The list needs revision but I can work on it soon.



Thread: Vocabulary Test

1343.       erdinc
2151 posts
 09 Dec 2005 Fri 03:04 am

Hi bod,
for this tool if you would like you could post a text with the translations you are using so if there is something unusual most of the native speakers can tell you that. I think afterwards it would be best to leave this tool as it as and maybe to condsider other tools.

I.
Another tool can be made for the case suffixes. For instance like this:
1. Choose the correct word:
Ben (okul) .............. gidiyorum.
These below are buttons:
okula
okulda
okuldan
okulu

2. Choose the correct word:
Kitap (masa) .............. duruyor.
These below are buttons:
masaya
masada
masadan
masayı

II.
Another tool could be considered for the possesive suffixes. For instance like this:
1. Choose the correct word:
Bu benim (bisiklet) ...............
These below are buttons:
bisiklet
bisikletim
bisikletin
bisikleti
bisikletimiz

2. Choose the correct word:
-Senin (araba) .............. var mı?
-Evet var.
These below are buttons:
araba
arabam
araban
arabası
arabamız

III. You could make another too for the syllabling issue but I'm not sure how to make it. Currently admin and me are thinking of a program that can devide and Turkish word to syllables. Since the sounds are almost always the same we can record the sound of all existing syllables and the program using these sounds would be able to read any Turkish text.
Smillar to microsoft reader but English isnt as suitable as Turkish so a computer program when reading Turkish texts would produce almost identical sounds to normal speech.

IV.
Smillar things can be made for verbs. Almost any issue in Turkish grammer can be formulised. I can help on this if needed.
For new ideas you could start by checking these pages:
http://www.turkishclass.com/forumTitle_6_1448
This page is a good example:
http://users.pandora.be/orientaal/Tu04a.html

In any grammar issue if you need the rules to be mathematically expressed thats no problem. For instance in the syllabling issue we had a smillar issue. A programmar would be able to make a small program that shows the syllables for any word you enter.

It would be great if somebody with programming skills could help me on some projects I'm currently working on about Turkish.



Thread: Turkish Maps

1344.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 09:05 pm

mella, in another thread mentioned of a very good online map. You can zoom in untill you see the streets.

Quoting mella:

I can recommend You just a very good administrative map of Turkyie. Click on the link below:

Map of Turkey



Thread: Vocabulary Test

1345.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 08:50 pm

Hi bod,
I checeked the tool it works well but two words caught my eye. These are "kind" and "difficult".

The main trandlation for difficult would be "zor" like in the sentence "this lesson is too difficult", "bu ders çok zor".

The other word "kind" when used like in the sentence "he is a kind person means "içten" or "iyi kalpli".



Thread: Where to add a name

1346.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 08:26 pm

Quote:

Floss, sen yaramaz bir köpeksin.
Floss, you are a naughty dog.

Sen Floss, yaramaz bir köpeksin.
You Floss, are a naughty dog.

Sen yaramaz bir köpeksin Floss.
You are a naughty dog Floss.



I think your translations and understanding fo the sentences are correct. The most common would be the first one, then the third and then the second one.

The first and last sentence are smillar in some ways. The first sentence is more casually and is like saying "Jackie you are a naughty boy" and can be a friend speech.

On the third sentence, which is close to number one, there is more stress on yaramaz (naugthy) I think.

The second sentence shows more annoyance and a little more anger. Its like you are pointing your finger and speaking slowly but seriously.

I would use the first one.



Thread: Map of Turkish

1347.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 08:05 pm

The one mella mentioned is the best online Turkia map I have ever seen.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1348.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 07:58 pm

Congratulations tabard. I have added your name as a master. You are doing well. İyi gidiyorsun.



Thread: SMOKING men??

1349.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 03:16 am

Erol, kolay gelsin. Umarım bırakırsın.
When I was in Turkia I tried to explain people that smoking shouldnt be encouraged but everywhere it was. I was working as a teacher in a school and the normal teacher's room was left for the smokers while a much smaller and far room was left for non-smokers. I tried to explain the reason why and how smoking could be discouraged. It is a non-reasonable thing and smokers shouldnt be made feel comfortably and they should feel like they are doing the wrong thing. Obviously you can not achive this by leaving first class places to smokers and second class places to non-smokers.

I would like to hear other poeple's opinions but I feel like in Britain smokers would feel uncomfortable. Some people might even say they would feel almost like a second class person. In many public buildings you have to go to unatractive places and the public really makes you feel that you are doing something wrong and unlogical.
On the other hand I don't know how we could decrease smoking while having so many problematic issues.
Erol, sen çok sigara içiyor musun? You look like you smoke a lot. Even in your picture I think you were smoking.



Thread: SMOKING men??

1350.       erdinc
2151 posts
 08 Dec 2005 Thu 02:14 am

I was a smoker a year and a half ago. I wasn't smoking too much but I still carried a pocked around and was addicted to it.
When I came to Britain the public made me feel like an idiot because I was smoking. I really felt uncomfortable in many places and smokers were not welcome everywhere.
When I was looking to let a flat smoking was a problem and the landlords were very seriously asking whether or not I was smoking. They were not willing to let a flat to a smoker. One of them told me that if I rent the place and after a while quit the smell will remain there and a non-smoker might not want the place.
When I first came I wanted to rent a room and they told me that I couldnt smoke in the house.
In Turkia smoking is still considered to be a symbol of strenght. It might sound strange but some women feel more independent because they smoke. Normally a women should smoke in public according some traditional lifestyles in Turkia. So some women take the challange and they do.
On the other hand for men it is a mannish thing. Smoking, beer and football matches perfectly for many Turkish men. For the young boys smoking is a symbol of maturness.
I think these things play a role in smoking. In Britain I feel like everyone feels pity for the smokers as they are not so logical and harm their own life. I do as well. So I have quit a year and a half ago.
I also congratulate the British Government for rising the tabacco prices incredibly high to make it so unpopular. As far as I know in Britain the tabacco prices are higher thahn in any other EU country. I think they even dont follow the EU borders regulations to keep it high.
Unfortunately in Turkia we have the TEKEL (the Turkish State Liquor and Tobacco Monopoly) which is a official company owned by the Government and as far as I know they are making a good profit.



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