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Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1421.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 02:30 pm

To pronounce two a's would be better. Some people just make it a long a.
Actually these Arabic words have more complicated pronounciations as they have at least two different sounds for "a" in Arabic.
In fact this is the case with saat as well. The first a sounds different than the second.
But it is possible and easier to make it one syllable as "saat" with a long 'a'. I would suggest this second way.



Thread: Consecutive vowels

1422.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 02:25 pm

There arent many. Just a few. In fact right now I cant think of others. Saat is the most common.

By the way, all the suffixes follow the rules.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1423.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 02:22 pm

You are right. It breaks the rule. The word isnt originally Turkish.

You know vowel harmony. Now look at these words: "insan, patates, domates" they have both sharp and deep vowels. We just have to live with the irregular words. So when applying a suffix the last vowel only counts.

Your guees is correct. it is sa-at.

There are some other irregular words: "bravo", "tren", and a few more.
Though we have cvcc we dont have ccv or ccvc syllables. So these are irregular as well.



Thread: Consecutive vowels

1424.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 02:14 pm

Good question.
It applies to suffixes.
Example:

Dative Case Suffix: -e -a (meaning to, towards)

If the last vowel is a deep vowel (a,ı,o,u) we use -a
okul+a :to the school

If the last vowel is a sharp vowel (e,i,ö,ü) we use -e
deniz+e :to the sea

But if the last vowel is a deep vowel (a,ı,o,u) and the word ends with the vowel we put the bufer y inbetween:

su+ya: to the water
hava+ya: to the sky
Ankara'ya: to Ankara

But if the last vowel is a sharp vowel (e,i,ö,ü) and the word ends with the vowel we put the bufer y inbetween:
kedi+ye: to the cat
Türkiye'ye : to Turkia

http://www.turkishlanguage.co.uk/nouns.htm



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1425.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 02:05 pm

Quoting bod:

I've done these three - but won't post my answers to give others a chance. But I'll compare my answers to the right answers when they appear!



Thank you bod for your interest. You can use your notepad located on top right where you log-in. Cheers.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1426.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 01:52 pm

I hope others do realise the trick with "o-kul" but "o-ku-la" and "ben" but "be-ni". OK, lets continue,

exercise 10:
Telefon çalıyor. Lütfen telefona bakın.

exercise 11:
Ben televizyon izliyorum.

exercise 12:
Televizyona bakmaktan gözlerim ağrıdı.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1427.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 01:40 pm

bod,
perfect. You are a syllabling master.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1428.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 01:39 pm

Quoting bod:

7 - Ben seni ararım. Sen beni arama.

Ben se-ni a-ra-rım. Sen be-ni ar-a-ma.

8 - Sen nerede yasıyorsun? İstanbul'da mı?

Sen ne-re-de ya-sı-yor-sun? İs-tan-bul'-da mı?

9 - İstanbul çok büyük bir şehirdir.

İs-tan-bul çok büy-ük bir şe-hir-dir.



bod,
you got number 8 right. You could check the 4 rules again.

Number 7 and 9 is still available to antbody.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1429.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 01:20 pm

Congratulations Nightingale,
you are a syllabling master.

Others can try the exercises on first message.



Thread: SYLLABLING - A Basic Issue Of Turkish Pronunciation

1430.       erdinc
2151 posts
 02 Dec 2005 Fri 01:07 pm

Nightingale,
you got 6 and 7 right, 4 is still available to anyone. You have now two bonuses. I added one more rules to the list on the top to make it clear.

Mella,
you got them all right except number 4 and 6.
It is >oy< na ma ya in 6. Again check new rule 3 on top for details.
Unfortunately no bonuses this time as you need to be first to make them but well done anyway.

Anyone can try these:

exercise 4:
Ben Türkiye'ye gitmek istiyorum.

exercise 7:
Ben seni ararım. Sen beni arama.

exercise 8:
Sen nerede yaşıyorsun? İstanbul'da mı?



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