I was an agnostic till two weeks ago. I have never become an atheist because i have a very skeptic nature. I thought atheism as a belief. Because you can´t decide about anything you don´t have proof. You can only say i don´t have any proof.I have always believed if there is a god this god must be different from what holly books tell. Because when i read holly books i realized the God they tell is like a human. I couldn´t accept such a god. But when i read sufis´ works i saw they tell same God very differently. I thought they were comforting themselves. I always liked sufis but i never believed them.

     I was having a great joy when i was reading atheist authors books. Everything they say was absolutely true for me. All of my favorite authors were atheist or agnostic. Nietzsche, Sartre, Camus, Sade, Cioran, Caraco and the others. I liked them because they were criticizing human God who is told in the holly books. But i kept reading books about God. Two weeks ago i read a book which tells prophet´s lives. The author´s approach to god was very different. He was telling all the holy books have a heavy symbolism and God is not like a human. I found new books about this matter. And one of these books convinced me fully. And i started to read holly books from a different perspective. And this time they seemed me very meaningful.

     As you see i was an agnostic like some of you. But my skeptic nature always forced me to learn more. I have still this nature. And i keep learning new things. I advice you the same. Don´t be prejudiced, be open to new and different ideas. Always read the two side´s books about a matter and then decide.

I respect your ideas. Lets wait and see.

 konuşurdum = I would talk

konuşur muydun? = Would you talk?

konuşabilirdim = I could talk

konuşabilir miydin? = Could you talk?

 "hüner coşkuner (a singer) did i love you for you to be others?" and "i ironed my soul in spite of it´s moanings."

 I am saying if you need a creator factor to explain a scientific event it means god is proved. This is very different from what you say. Because in my situation science would say that some phenomenons can be explained by a creator factor so these phenomenons are not incomprehensible from now on. It would say we can understand these phenomenons if we include creator factor into our calculations. So when a creator factor makes some phenomenon understandable for us, we can say god is proved. As you know there are a priori principles in science.  Scientists accept these a priori principle without proving them. Because these a priori principles are needed to make some calculations. Science need a logical base to form its theories. For example science accept universe has always existed. This is a logical inference. But science can not prove it with solid evidence. Maybe it is right maybe wrong but science needs this a priori principle. Some day maybe god´s existence will be an a priori principle for science. You can´t know this. You have to wait and see.

 Anne

Lütfen yardım et.

Seni Kasım´da görmeye geldiğinde lütfen Recep´le konuşur musun?

Artık onunla evli olmaktan mutlu değilim ve senin onunla konuşmana ihtiyacım var.

O iyi bir koca değil. Çok bencil. Bebeğimizle ilgili de hiç yardımcı olmuyor. Bu benim evliliğimizi kurtarmak için son denemem çünkü artık onunla birlikte yaşayabileceğimi sanmıyorum.

Keşke seninle kendi başıma konuşabilsem ama bu mesajı tercüme ettirmek zorundaydım.

Lütfen ona şimdilik bir şey söyleme. Tek istediğim senin veya babanın Kasım´da geldiğinde onunla konuşması.

Sizi çok seviyorum.

 I read many books of Ibn Arabi and other sufis. You say there is a contradiction. But there is not. You don´t need to find or show god to prove it. If you need a creator factor when you want to explain some scientific events it means you proved there is a god. I said there is nothing except god. Whole universe is a part of god. But god is more than that. We can´t understand it fully because our brains function according to time and space concepts. God is above time and space.Nobody can define fully what is god. But this doesn´t mean you can´t prove it´s existence.And i believe science will prove it.

I read many books of Ibn Arabi and other sufis. You say there is a contradiction. But there is not. You don´t need to find or show god to prove it. If you need a creator factor when you want to explain some scientific events it means you proved there is a god. I said there is nothing except god. Whole universe is a part of god. But god is more than that. We can´t understand it fully because our brains function according to time and space concepts. God is above time and space.Nobody can define fully what is god. But this doesn´t mean you can´t prove it´s existence.And i believe science will prove it.

 Don´t be so pessimist.Trust science.

God can be proved when some scientific researches need a creator to explain some scientific events. No human mind can understand god or find it in universe in a space or time. Because i believe there is nothing except god. We are parts of it but we are not it. This is hard for us to understand fully.