Quoting CANLI:

Quoting CANLI:

Making a movie about Qur'an ??!!!!
OMG,you really dont have respect for anything at ALL,NOTHİNG ?!

Quoting Daydreamer:

Hey! Good timing Deli_kizin And ideas just as good

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Because I have read some of your posts, and wondered what you had to say about this QUOTE]

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D-K

Before I make my main point, I would like to say I understand what you are saying about what is happening in your country on the political front and you are right to be concerned about Wilders. Your discussion with Catwoman (while you waited for Canli) was interesting and showed your genuine concern and sadness.

My main point is this:

You are an extremely intelligent and articulate woman. As you say, you have read some of Canli's posts. So in my opinion you knew what her reaction would be. This makes me suspicious of your motives for asking your question in the first place. I think the word I'm looking for is provocation. Why would you want to do that I wonder?

Nothing you said about Islam has not been said before and will probably be said again. Canli, like yourself is a decent human being however I think she should have ignored your question because the conversation was only ever going to head in one direction.

In the interests of retaining my crown of sanctimony, I must suggest that, as a moderator, you have not done your homework and read the site rules . . . you know, the ones about politics, religion and insults (I think accusing someone of having hatred is a tad insulting).

Yes . . . I KNOW I have no room to preach, but then I'm not a moderator . . . I'm supposed to be kept in line . . .by you dear.

Now, this word, 'respect' . . . it has been used quite a lot. How do you suppose you will promote members' respect for site rules and moderators' decisions when moderation is inconsistent and moderators flout the rules (even cause arguments in some instances ) ?

Inconsistency . . . that reminds me . . . Catwoman - You gave public threats of deletion for instances of insulting language, yet no public warnings to either DK or Canli about discussing religion and politics. tut tut

Completely off topic - I suddenly saw myself as the Hunchback of Notre Dame . . . only I wasn't swinging from the bell rope yelling "sanctuary!" . . . no prizes for guessing which word I yelled by the way

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Quoting Deli_kizin:

If its that holy it dont need protection honey!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

And yes, it is scary that he is getting more and more votes lately. However, I did not vote for him, yet you keep attacking me. I disgust your way of talking.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Your comments make my blood boil. You say you treat every Danish personally? But you dont want to buy their food? Sorry but how is that personal treatment? What does Danish population have to do with their cartoonist? You are so one-sided in your comments. All you do is get furious. But I agree with what is said before: its a Muslim duty to clear the bad reputation. And your 'respect my holy book'-shouts, will accomplish the contrary!

Quoting Deli_kizin:

Should I respect a book I dont believe in? In that case you should respect a cartoon too, because that is what its maker believed in.

You demand respect from us, but give nothing in return.

I am willing to treat something that is sacred for another with respect. As an example, I am reading Quran and instead of putting it under my bed like I do with all books, I put it high up in the bookcase, so that my partners housemate wont get offended if he sees. I wont crush something of which I know it is sacred for another. But apparantly freedom of speech is not in your book (general). Because you do nothing to respect it. You just want us to respect something that means nothing to us, but are not willing to accept the fact that it doesnt mean anything.

Quoting Deli_kizin:

You - us and stuff, they are just general. I dont feel like debating personally.. Im glad Im gone till friday, so that I wont have to feel 'insulted' by Canlı who thinks I back up a rightwing idiot politician, and who thinks I am against Islam and enjoy insulting her holy book.

Quoting Daydreamer:

Quoting CANLI:

You assumed İslam ordered this,then should we assume Christianity,and Judaism ordered such too ?!
Specially Crusade is well known and it could prove such claim it !

Quoting Daydreamer:

Ok, so what I gather is Islam is such a beautiful religion, with equal rights to everyone regardless of sex. Everybody's free to make their own choices, religion that doesn't allow killing people for having different believes contrary to Christianity which is responsible for Crusades (regardless of the fact that Crusades lasted till 16th century with their peak in 13th and that the Church condemned them).

Muslims are simply misunderstood, it's not real Muslims who organise terrorist attacks, they are just a tiny fraction of fundamentalists not representative of the whole religious community. The West has absolutely no Muslim communities, those who are there are suffering from constant persecutions, there isn't a single mosque and nowhere can they practise their religion. All West hates Muslims because of the propaganda in tv calling those responsible for 9/11 and London attacks terrorists. Biased media dares to call people skinning their captives terrorists.

How barbaric is the Western media in comparison to propaganda-free Muslim countries. Only there are women free to do whatever they want. They do want to be dependant on men, at least they have no problems getting married unlike poor sexually abused women selling their bodies cheap in the West. They absolutely trust their parents so no choice their parents make is bad for them. Of course they can reject a candidate they don't like like I'm sure it often happens because all Muslim women marry of love. Because their fiancé cannot see them, bodily, animal-like desire is avoided. Thanks to that a woman is not a sexual object but a person. Of course, being a person she may make mistakes, then her husband has the right to punish her with his hand (if I remember correctly). [Just a digression here - how many homes for battered women are there in the East? Or how many homes for single mothers?]. She may even go to work - now that's progress - of course, if her husband lets her to. She has so many other duties, all those kids and housework. Oh, right - she was made to breed so the first chance coming, she should have as many children as her husband wants to. He is the smarter part of the tandem after all. etc etc...

So, the liberal and just Muslim countries don't ban a whole country from an international event basing on the actions of one person. But the evil and corrupt West countries banished all Muslims from for the actions of a group that killed thousands of innocent people and also ban them from any international events.

You're right Canli. West is bad and very unjust to Muslims. Unlike Muslims to the West.

Quoting Daydreamer:

Ok, so what I gather is Islam is such a beautiful religion, with equal rights to everyone regardless of sex. Everybody's free to make their own choices, religion that doesn't allow killing people for having different believes contrary to Christianity which is responsible for Crusades (regardless of the fact that Crusades lasted till 16th century with their peak in 13th and that the Church condemned them). .

Quoting Daydreamer:

Muslims are simply misunderstood, it's not real Muslims who organise terrorist attacks, they are just a tiny fraction of fundamentalists not representative of the whole religious community. The West has absolutely no Muslim communities, those who are there are suffering from constant persecutions, there isn't a single mosque and nowhere can they practise their religion. All West hates Muslims because of the propaganda in tv calling those responsible for 9/11 and London attacks terrorists. Biased media dares to call people skinning their captives terrorists. .